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[–] Touching_Grass 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Hence why the people on the internet needs to reject people coming here to profit.

There's no middle ground in trying to keep the internet good and having it be a platform to hock stuff.

We should go back to the roots. Promote collaboration and be hostile to those people trying to manufacture scarcity online

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not against platforms, if they actually compete on features and not content.

This somewhat works for music. Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, YT music all have pretty much the same catalog.

[–] Touching_Grass 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why are you OK with platforms?

Giving that all of them have shown you that the end state is to reduce the features and quality of content while making you pay more and more for this stuff.

We had the perfect opportunity. We had a new thing to shape and mold for future generations. Instead We let the people in who ruined every other thing we enjoyed. What I can't understand is how people thought they could let them in and also think it would somehow be different.

The right move is to do everything possible to make the internet anti profitable. The minute anyone. Tries we should copy and share it to infinity. Crack all the software. Treat everything the way NFTs were treated. Move the needle back to what we started with a space for hobbyist and enthusiast to create and share information without the endless pursuit of profit enshitifying every space we enjoy

[–] TwilightVulpine 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get the spirit of that, but actual creators (not executives and investors) still need money. We can't fully rid the internet of monetizable platforms without harming them.

[–] Touching_Grass 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For sure. We all need money. But I'm not willing to accept all the stuff that comes with it. Which is why I believe there isn't a middle ground. I think what the internet could be and evolve into is much greater than some creator making money by exploiting its spaces.

But also, they can make money in what I'm proposing. What I'm saying is it shouldn't be a place where that is the creators main motivation for being here.

These creators end up with the same behaviors as any Spotify, twitter, Facebook executive. There are inherent barriers with modern online creators that work against the good internet we all want. Its insidious and not as evident as it is with the bigger players. But they are all the same.