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[–] Bondrewd -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nice shoehorn of anglo-saxon history, but those famines are all plagues and crop faliures for the most part.

[–] KepBen 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is it the rich never starve if it's just a totally unaccountable natural disaster?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Rich usually have more resources and ability to purchase them at elevated prices. Hope that helps

[–] Bondrewd 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they have money duuh.

[–] KepBen 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So it's less of a natural disaster and more of an economic disaster? I wonder why people would blame governments for that...

[–] Bondrewd 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is like miles away from the intentional economical engineering we are talking about. Still not sure why you are so bent on trying to wiggle them into a comparsion between regimes and personnel more direct, intentional and immediate like Mao or Stalin.

If you dont distinguish from those, then why even have a debate on them?

The joke implied that the question intended to ask one or very few directly involved personnel and you disregarded that. Thats it.

[–] KepBen 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right sure, when the British intentionally abuse Ireland and India it's really just a whoopsie-daisy.

[–] Bondrewd 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should I really do the same kind of jumping to conclusions?

Are you saying that the largest completely man made famine ever does not really deserve that much of a recognition?

[–] KepBen 2 points 1 year ago

Nope. I'm just saying they're all "man-made".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The rich and the party cadres

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They forced farmers to grow indigo crops instead of natural cotton/wheat/rice.

[–] Bondrewd 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im pretty sure that was not during the drought itself, nor really caused it. It economically made sense and then probably exacerbated the famine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It wasn't just the drought. Indigo cropping destroyed the soil first, drought exacerbated the problems.

[–] Filthmontane 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All famines are crop failures. That's kinda how famines happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No

A famine is a widespread scarcity of food,[1][2] caused by several factors including war, natural disasters, crop failure, widespread poverty, an economic catastrophe or government policies.

[–] creditCrazy 3 points 1 year ago

I suppose you can consider getting your crops blown up a crop failure