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[–] WaxedWookie 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More a case of applying their rationale to demonstrate that it's not based in reason.

[–] FishFace 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. It certainly isn't - but I think it's worth understanding and emphasising that prejudice is never based on reason.

[–] WaxedWookie 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I generally agree, but would also argue that adopting and showcasing their broken reasoning is more effective than simply saying they're not basing their views in reason. It also has other benefits...

  • For example, if you speak to a Nazi, they'll accurately point to disproportionate Jewish representation in banking and media. There's a (ultimately irrelevant) factual point underpinning their bullshit, and my approach avoids the need to track back through their endless layers of bullshit and misinterpreted nuggets of truth to prove the lack of reason.

  • It's concise, and means you don't need to wade through the ghish gallop of nonsense

  • The ridicule pokes at the key motivator of non-reason-focused people - emotions

  • The slight edginess appeals to reactionaries, who tend to view progressives as fragile little snowflakes they'd never align with.

  • It's more entertaining.

[–] FishFace 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mmm, makes sense. I will look out for when people are showing inconsistent reasoning rather than arguing with it.

[–] WaxedWookie 1 points 1 year ago

Diversity of tactics 😉