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“It feels like I’ve been working harder and harder and sliding backwards down the scale,” she says.

Making $50k in a small town and still "scraping by" is scary. Maybe I'm just old, but I'd hoped that kind of income would be enough for some kind of comfort.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

ITT: Crabs in a bucket arguing about how "You could totally climb that wall if you weren't spending so much on avocado toast!" while the water pot next to them starts to boil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would like to understand what you are saying.

The "crabs in a bucket" idea refers to:

The analogous theory in human behavior is that members of a group will attempt to reduce the self-confidence of any member who achieves success beyond the others, out of envy, jealousy, resentment, spite, conspiracy, or competitive feelings, to halt their progress.

How does it apply here? She is not "achieving success beyond the others" and we are not trying to stop her from doing so. Quite the opposite! We are trying to help people who find themselves in a similar position make the best out off the budget they have so that they can make ends meet like we do.

In other words, we are crabs who have gotten out of the debt bucket and are trying to help others come out as well.

The other analogy you seem to be alluding to is the "frog in a pot":

The boiling frog is an apologue describing a frog being slowly boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death.

What I can tell you from experience is that during periods of hardship, the ability to adapt makes a huge difference and puts you in a much better position mentally and financially when things inevitably get better. Because this too shall pass.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

They are referring to the people in this thread are debating about her spending habits without looking at the bigger picture.

We are the crabs.