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[–] WeirdGoesPro 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m with you on all except for the top, and if you’re down, I’d like to hear more about your opinion on supernatural beliefs. If you told someone 500 years ago that there is a minuscule and invisible world all around us where the laws of physics break down, that would have been considered lunacy or witchcraft. Today, we commonly accept quantum physics as a part of our normal reality.

Of course, there are instances where people are clearly engaging in delusional thinking, but there are also plenty of examples of people who have had experiences that they are struggling to explain, and they are progressively building a hypothesis to explain it. Is it more rational to deny your own experiences to make your worldview fit the commonly accepted consensus? Or is it better to keep an open mind and continue to investigate if you can?

I ask primarily because I know I hold a few woo woo beliefs, but I try to refrain from making drastic decisions based on it. I’ve often wondered if some of the things I’ve experienced would be explained in the distant future, because I can loudly attest to the perceived realness of the experience when you’re having it. If you see, feel, and smell an elephant in the room, it’s a little hard to ignore it even if everyone else says it isn’t there.

This got longer than I anticipated, but I look forward to hearing your response if you have time.

[–] cedarmesa 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] NewNewAccount 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are the “woo woo beliefs” that you hold? If they’re semiplausible “what ifs” to explain the unexplainable that you yourself hold with a grain of salt… seems reasonable. If they’re more “omnipotent, conscious being in the sky explains all things unexplainable”… far less reasonable.

[–] WeirdGoesPro 1 points 2 years ago

My woo woo beliefs are that I am relatively sure that there are either external or deeply primordial metaconciousnesses that we can access through altered states—meditation, magick, and/or drugs. Though it is not something I can prove scientifically at this point, I have done a fair amount of experimenting with automatic writing as well as spent dozens of hours with people exploring the same sorts of phenomenon, and I’m relatively confident that there is some real thing happening during these communications, even though I can’t explain it.

For the things I’ve experienced to be a coincidence would almost be more unlikely than for there to be an unexplained force at play, especially when I later gathered stories from other earnest seekers who had nearly identical mind blowing experiences, straight down to the order of events, feelings, and realizations.

So though I can’t prove it, I’ve seen enough to want to know more, and I am relatively convinced that it is not just illusion because the evidence I have observed directly and indirectly screams otherwise.