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Not a feel good story, so beware. But I think there's a glimmer of hope here in contextualizing despair into survival, as upsetting as that may be.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should probably learn how to do that formatting. It's easily understood. Do you mind linking me to where I could learn?

I have not really experienced that before. This is actually my first time making any sort of attempt at online social media. The last time I used Facebook was back in 2010. It seemed like people just wanted to be hostile on that site. A story that I remember, and will not look up because I love being wrong, is a story about two guards in Poland from the second world war. They were tasked with killing women and children. One of them couldn't bring themselves to kill innocent people. So a solution they came up with is one would kill the mother, and then the other realized that the child would only live in misery without their mother. So it became a mercy killing. I do not believe in evil. People are doing what they think is the best thing to do. Hurt people hurt people. If you treat hurt people with hostility, then you will get hostility in return. The online space is great for people to put their inner most thoughts. Everyone has random thoughts, and they can be destructive.

To me I don't see that much difference between people who call themselves LGBT and people who call themselves the catch all term. But to someone who wishes to exclude them I understand that frustration.

I see no reason why a cishet person couldn't be the term you dislike. Sexuality tends to be one of the first things targeted in genocides. It's like how cishet males look at lesbian or straight peron, they put themselves in one of the participants shoes. When they do that to something they do not personally want to do they get disgusted, like an autistic person eating mushrooms. They feel attacked because people "forced" them into experiencing it. I am not saying this is correct or good. It causes a lot of strife. But cishets would get targeted by that. I see no reason why I shouldn't protect them from that hostility.

I'm sorry I don't understand that term. Do you mind telling me what that is?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I should probably learn how to do that formatting. It's easily understood. Do you mind linking me to where I could learn?

Prepend > to each line of text. Look up “Markdown”.

I have not really experienced that before. [...] I do not believe in evil. People are doing what they think is the best thing to do. Hurt people hurt people. If you treat hurt people with hostility, then you will get hostility in return. The online space is great for people to put their inner most thoughts. Everyone has random thoughts, and they can be destructive.

I believe that evil is when “what they think is the best thing to do” intentionally hurts others.

To me I don't see that much difference between people who call themselves LGBT and people who call themselves the catch all term. But to someone who wishes to exclude them I understand that frustration.

If you’ve been hurt by a slur, and someone’s trying to cheapen the slur by including non-homosexual, non-bisexual, non-transgender people into the community with it as the excuse, and often not even recognizing it as a slur, you’d want it OUT.

I see no reason why a cishet person couldn't be the term you dislike. Sexuality tends to be one of the first things targeted in genocides.

You see no reason why a cishet person couldn’t creep into the community defined by not being a cishet, then?

I'm sorry I don't understand that term. Do you mind telling me what that is?

“Truscum” is a pejorative for a trans person who defines the word “transgender” as “a person who experiences gender dysphoria (distressing evidence of mismatching sex and gender identity), or someone who used to and has transitioned”.

The opposite is “tucute” (also known as “transtrender”) deriving from “too cute to be cis”. It is someone who says anyone whosoever who says they’re trans is trans, and you are an “exclusionist” for thinking otherwise in any case. Tucutes call truscum “transphobic”, which is ironic because tucutes cheapen the word “transgender” and ruin the integrity of the trans community from within and its public relations from without.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Look up “Markdown”.

I will if this fails, thank you.

that evil is when

Yeah, that is a disagreement I have with you. Once you believe something is evil then you allow yourself the ability to treat them less than human. Believing someone as evil should be a big deal and not something that floats between some dude that T-boned you because he was on his phone, and Jeffrey Dahmer.

including non-homosexual, non-bisexual, non-transgender people

Are asexual and non-binary people not part of LGBT?

cheapen the slur...as the excuse, and often not even recognizing it as a slur

I already talked about how I feel it's use as a slur. I feel it's easier than calling people LGBTQQIP2SAA. That is too much of an acronym and I don't believe it would take in mainstream culture.

You see no reason why a cishet person couldn’t creep into the community

I have no problem with a cishet person participating. While they are not LGBT, that doesn't mean they cannot be the term you dislike. I really like telling people about the things I enjoy. If I want to talk about my experience, I don't want to be met with people throwing up in their mouths.

Truscum

I appreciate the definition. I don't think it requires dysphoria. Gender is how you interact and get interacted with by the world. I can see why wanting a different frame could be something to pursue.

Tucute

I may be old and this might just be that but I do believe some effort is required. Although, I have an inlaw who hasn't made any attempts to transition because they are still owned by their parents and would probably get killed if they found out. I can understand as a person interacting with the world with this frame as to make issues simple.

ruin the integrity of the trans community

Different cultures should be different. I don't believe there is only one trans community. Your trans community should be different than someone who wants something fundamentally different. But with something as broad as LGBT I think that net is too big for what you are looking for.