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Mozillas petition to get an answer from Microsoft, is it using your data to train its AI? (foundation.mozilla.org)

submitted 7 months ago by LunchEnjoyer to c/technology

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Microsofts new Terms and Service agreement is rather questionable. In short; It does not clarify if Microsoft will use your data to train it's AI.

So Mozilla is calling for arms to sign their petition for Microsoft to give a proper answer! You can sign it here -> https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/campaigns/microsoft-ai/

Mozillas Context;

Ask Microsoft: Are you using our personal data to train AI? We had four lawyers, three privacy experts, and two campaigners look at Microsoft's new Service Agreement, and none of our experts could tell if Microsoft plans on using your personal data – including audio, video, chat, and attachments from 130 products, including Office, Skype, Teams, and Xbox – to train its AI models.

If nine experts in privacy can't understand what Microsoft does with your data, what chance does the average person have? That's why we're asking Microsoft to say if they're going to use our personal data to train its AI.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why ask when you know the answer is yes?

If the product is free, you are the product. Even when it's not free, you're still the product because data is too valuable.

[–] LunchEnjoyer 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

although a good mentality, its not always correct. Also, this isn't just about "asking", it's fighting big corps/tech to be more transparent about their policies.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And if they say "yes", if they are blatant and transparent about their business model, that will somehow make it better? This idea of "putting sunshine on a problem" never actually solves anything. The problem company just comes back with "Yeah? So? What the fuck are you going to do about it?"

[–] LunchEnjoyer 9 points 7 months ago

Well, the more negative feedback they get the more they will rethink it. Just like what happened to Googles proposed "Web Integrity" API recently. It recived a huge negative backlash and in return they dropped the idea, for now...

But if you're asking if "blatent and transparent" polices are better than the ones that are not, then the answer to that is a big fat YES ofcourse they are. I personally have had enough of google and microsoft so im staying away from their serivces as much as I possible can.

[–] jarfil 5 points 7 months ago

Shining light on a problem is a good step to make people realize there is a problem in the first place.

What the fuck are you going to do about it?

Start a meme campaign targeted at countries with privacy legislations, aimed at making their future governments ask for ~~higher bribes~~ more lobbying before signing away taxpayer money to Microsoft contracts...

I mean, ideally have Microsoft rethink its approach, like Meta is rethinking its with Instagram, but let's start with something simple.

[–] WinterBear 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah we should just never do anything if it doesn't instantly fix the problem.