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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 years ago (10 children)

When people say oh firefox performance is like so intolerably bad that they HAVE to use a chromium based browser, I always wonder what device people are using and how many things they got going on in the background. I don't understand why ANYONE would need to have like 200 tabs open at once and even if Firefox is slower loading source heavy stuff by like a second, I think that is a sacrifice worth making.

Personally Firefox has been perfectly fine for me even when Im running it on a Win 11 virtual machine on top of Linux that also has Firefox with 10 tabs open and like five other applications in the background on a very mid range laptop.

[–] Contramuffin 23 points 2 years ago

I do that (100+ tabs open at any given time) due to my work (research tends to take up a ton of windows) and because I'm too scatterbrained to focus on a single thing at once, but even then I find that Firefox is really good and arguably better than Chrome. Maybe Chrome has improved since I switched over, but Firefox uses significantly less resources than the Chrome that I remember

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have ~800 tabs open in Firefox, no real issues unless I flip through all of them or Tab Groups shuffles them all around. My desktop until recently was over a decade old and the new one is barely any faster.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Jesus fucking christ I get uncomfortable having 30 tabs open at times I can not imagine 800

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Tab Groups+ Tree Style Tabs

I try to open new windows for every individual thing I do, but sometimes I forgot and the big tab Groups grow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

...... I don't know if I can even think of a reason I would have thirty tabs open at any given ven time. I've never experienced any issues with Firefox, speaking purely from my own personal experience it performs vastly better than Chrome did when I made the switch a couple of years back. To be clear, I can't conceive of a reason in 2023 where I would feel compelled to open Chrome, or any chromium browser outside of manufactured limitations imposed by a third party. If someone more knowledgeable on the subject has an objection to the above claims I would be happy to hear them; but at this point in time I can't think of a good reason to use Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have actually always found Firefox to perform better. Especially compared to the RAM whore, Chrome.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 3 points 2 years ago

Well unfortunately it's about double the CPU and RAM usage for equivalent tabs and extensions to Vivaldi, and V has more baked into it too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

People really got to learn how to use Bookmark All Tabs... properly.

If you're in the middle of something and you got to switch to something else, organize all the tabs to separate windows, and use Bookmark All Tabs... to Saved Sessions folder or whatever you want to name it. This will allow each window to be saved individually. Save it with a date and at topic name, like "20230625 Bread maker" then close the window.

I have a fear of crashing Firefox, restore failing, and losing all my tabs. This fixes most of that.

Using the Bookmark All Tabs... method has help me organize my tabs, makes syncing with devices easier, and has allowed me to keep browsing sessions completely off my mind until I need them again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Since when is that option a thing? Always thought I need an extension for that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Since before version 64, ~2018. There were a bunch of add-ons adding it back in to the menu since Mozilla decided to get of it from the menu but still keep functionality. Besides that, I have no idea how far back they had it.

[–] voxov7 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use One Tab and Auto Tab Discard.

Firefox is super slow on my Galaxy S8 though.

[–] denemdenem 4 points 2 years ago

I second auto tab discard. I like my thousand tabs and it keeps them unloaded when not used actively.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For years Firefox on Windows had this weird random bug for me where audio just would not work at random times. I tried every fix imaginable. I spent hours crawling the internet trying to find a solution. Couldn't fix it. I've used it on Linux but not on Windows for a few years now; I'm going to be doing a fresh install of Windows on my computer soon, so we'll see if the bug finally disappears then.

[–] AgentOrangesicle 5 points 2 years ago

Windows audio issues are the most impossible shit to diagnose. So many programs fight over supremacy in order to control devices. It takes uninstalling vast swaths of shit to determine what the incongruity is. If you can't figure it out, link me to the most relevant post you got and I'll try to hack at it.

Sorry, friend. Figuring that shit out is hell. I know.

[–] AgentOrangesicle 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You sound like someone that doesn't open 200+ tabs of furry adult imagery on e621 while playing processor intensive games.

I mean... I'm obviously not that person either, but it would be cool to have the RAM to support it or the correct web browser if I was that type of person. But I'm not. But having that capability would be nice (not because I need it).

...I don't look at furry porn.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I run at 16GB of RAM and have 40+ tabs open 24/7. There are zero RAM issues, you need to plug your leaks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Thou art a saucy boy, Tybalt

[–] burgundymyr 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

32GB of RAM is less than $50, I just built a new PC, and it was the easiest upgrade I made to my build, regardless of what you put in your tabs

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

32GB of RAM is less than $50

Cool, now how much is it outside "the US and maybe select parts of Europe where it's close enough"? Because not all the world uses dollars, and certainly not US dollars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago
[–] burgundymyr 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably depends on where you are, how much is it for you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It ultimately doesn't matter where I am from. I'm just trying to highlight the fact that not all the world is the US.

[–] burgundymyr 2 points 2 years ago

I'm relatively familiar with the global population distribution, but not at all familiar with the pricing differences. It's the price of RAM drastically different outside the US?

[–] Willer 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Ever since firefox switched to quantum it's been great. I would say it outperforms chromium under typical circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I've had 5k+ tabs open at some points, because I just don't close any of them, and I often middle click as I want to navigate back to the page I was at. Additionally, a lot of sites break the back button, like collapsing comments re-expanding, or it loads slowly and I wanted to look at it quick. Organization is pretty nice with Tree-Style Tab for Firefox.

Every few months I purge all of my tabs, but for the most part, I just don't care when I have 32 GB of RAM.

[–] AndreTelevise 2 points 2 years ago

I only have three extensions - uBlock Origin, a 3rd party password manager, and SponsorBlock. A fairly minimal setup with only the things I need. Even the Return YT Dislikes extension is not as necessary as people would think.