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The Biden administration requested Israel detail the thinking and process behind the recent strike on the Jabalia Refugee Camp in Northern Gaza, according to a U.S. official, who like others was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations.

"The U.S. asked for an explanation of the first [attack] on Jabalia," said the official, adding that the conversation was in the context of "asking Israel to do more to avoid civilian casualties."

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

May not be relevant anymore but Israeli reserve major general Oren Shachor, explained in 2014: “If we kill their families, that will frighten them.”

Hope that clears things up Mr President 🙏

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That sounds a lot like he was proposing literal terrorism?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep.

Just wait until you hear that on July 19th 2018, Israel passed the nation-state law which states in it's basic principles, "The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people." Meaning Arabs and Muslims are not entitled to the same rights or freedom as Jewish people.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 16 points 1 year ago

Using violence to intimidate groups for political aims? The actual definition of terrorism? The devil you say.

[–] thatsage 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And do we have any proof that it wasn't just some stupid thing somebody stupid said that nothing came out of?

I never even heard of that guy and can't find him on Google.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@thatsage google sucks these days. Use DuckDuckGo, that guy's linkedin is on the front page for me, among other things, so is his obituary.

I think the notable part is that someone in that position had that attitude.

[–] thatsage 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it was my bad googled the family name wrong initially

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Israel isn't killing anybody's whole family... Oh wait.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

.. duh.

One mans’ terrorist is another mans’ freedom figther.

[–] SheeEttin 10 points 1 year ago

Generally yeah, but I don't think an established and recognized independent nation-state can say it's fighting for its freedom.

[–] thatsage -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And do you have any proof that it wasn't just some stupid thing somebody stupid said that nothing came out of?

I never even heard of that guy and can't find him on Google.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] thatsage -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So, the stupid opinion of a retired person (as of 2014 already...) which isn't even filling an active role in the military, and is already deceased.

Meaning no actual IDF policy or strategy whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well that's great news! Now I can ignore:

I mean I can keep going, but why bother? You're saying that this stuff doesn't matter! It's great to just brush off Israeli apartheid!

[–] thatsage 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is actually just a proposal without any weight, which might not even be considered at all by any acting part of government - despite its name, that office usually has very little political power and does nothing but prepare documents and research.

Now, you cannot link me isolated instances older than 5 years - on each we can deep dive into discussion about disagreements (since they are often biased against Israel, and exaggerate or invent some facts, and leave others out... But not always, sometimes soldiers fuck up and do things that they should be judged for, of course it can happen) to support a claim that is only recently made about a supposed policy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel has killed a Palestinian children daily since it's inception, this isn't isolated. I'll let you be delusional on your own.

[–] thatsage 0 points 1 year ago