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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So yeah the north wanted the right to gives rights to the people in it, and the south thought that didn't apply to black people.

I think that gives a bit too much credit to the vast majority of Union citizens. Yes there were some groups of Quakers who actually believed in freeing slaves and protecting their rights, but that was a minority opinion .

The majority of people in the union disagreed with slavery for economic and political reasons that were unattached to the morality of slavery. Even progressive politicians like Abe Lincoln who wanted to free slaves, also wanted them to be shipped to the Dominican Republic or Africa afterwards.

[–] Madison420 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Abolitionist v radical abolitionist and emacipationist v radical emancipationist.

History is fun like that..

[–] Zoboomafoo 2 points 1 year ago

And to radicals, there is no greater foe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The war did polarize people into holding stronger opinions than they did before though.
Even if they started as unionists more than anything else, being opposed to the South turned into also opposing what they stood for. As evidenced by a lot of the most popular northern camp songs, matches and letters, it didn't take long for "hang Jeff davis, the traitorous scoundrel" to turn into "hang Jeff Davis, the traitorous, slaving scoundrel. Let's shoot rebels in the name of freedom!".

Wanting to shoot confederates is a weird reason to become pro emancipation, but I'll take it.