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"Show up acting stupid and find out" (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by DeadNinja to c/atheism

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[–] CoffeeJunkie 3 points 10 months ago

While it's not spelled out in explicit language, there are actually a number of examples we can infer from. 🙂 Fairly well-read ex-Christian. A lot of "FAFO" material, fittingly, is found in the Old Testament & the way God dealt with Israel. I'm only going to briefly touch on these, religion took 25 years of my life & I'm not up for hours-long debates over nothing anymore.

There were lots of rules surrounding the ark of the covenant. It was being transported via cart, and it was about to fall. Uzzah reached out & touched it to steady it; the anger of the Lord burned against him & he died on the spot.

Uzzah did nothing wrong per se; he was trying to be helpful. But the AotC was designed to be carried with 2 poles that fit through rings on the side, so as not to be touched by human hands. Especially non-priests. Uzzah died in the same way as a child playing with a downed power line because it looks like a big, black snake. Lack of knowledge. He fucked around & found out.

Moses was instructed to speak to a rock & water would come out. He disobeyed & struck the rock instead. Though he did not die immediately as a result, he was denied entry into the Promised Land. He fucked around & found out.

New Testament: A couple landowners sold their field & made a big show about how they were donating the money to the church, disciples. Husband & wife were questioned individually & asked if the amount donated was the price the field got, in full. Both lied, both died, they fucked around & found out.

...all that to say, Christianity isn't to be labeled as a purely pacifist religion. That's not correct. And when people "act stupid", consequences are administered. Yes, even sometimes death, sometimes God would kill them himself or order the killing. Obedience is very highly valued in Christianity, do what is right, do it correctly, do not lie (with some notable exceptions), do as I say...or else.