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  • Hamas-run government says Israeli strikes on Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza killed at least 195 Palestinians, with concerns raised by the UN that these could constitute war crimes.
  • Evacuation of foreign nationals from Gaza is underway, with 320 already crossed into Egypt; about 7,500 are expected to leave within two weeks.
  • The strikes targeted Hamas military leaders and infrastructure, with Israel’s campaign responding to Hamas' cross-border attacks from Oct. 7.
  • U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is set to visit Israel and Jordan to discuss the conflict and the need to minimize civilian casualties.

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[–] Aceticon 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah, that's just the a false dichotomy that's been used to manipulate public opinion.

This whole thing has to be address via Counter Insurgency methods, but that would mean actually listenning to the Palestinians, let them have enough that they don't want to lose it and not commit random acts of violence and land theft against them, so that the Insurgency Movement which is Hamas has little or no popular support at which point it becomes very easy to find and kill the terrorists.

However Israel has a far right government (I would even say Fascist), so it's all about Strength and thanks in a large extent to the support of the likes of the US (plus countries like France, the UK and Germany) they have the means and the "unwavering support" to be as violent as they feel like, hence their choice of purelly violent, no moral considerations (ultimatelly, genocidal), ways of "solving" the problem.

[–] qnick -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What they want is to "kill all Jews". We've already passed that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want to kill whoever is stealing their lands and killing their people, they just happened to be Zionists.

If Israel was of a different religion, or even atheists, the result would have been the same. People fight for their land and their freedom against occupiers regardless of the occupier's religion.

[–] qnick -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When Ukraine "steals" land from Donetsk People Republic, you support the "stealers", but with Israel you change your opinion to the opposite. How come?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What nonsense are you talking about?

[–] qnick -2 points 1 year ago

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you support Kremlin. No more questions.