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IPCC report says only swift and drastic action can avert irrevocable damage to world

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[–] msbeta1421 23 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Not to be contrarian, I know this is an ever growing problem, but is it really doing any good to continue phrasing the issue like this?

It’s starting to sound like those cults who predict the end of the world every 10 years.

Let the data speak for itself. Show the models and the projected results. I truly believe that we are in a dire position, but the current method of communication is not working.

Also, I don’t believe the feedback mechanisms are ever emphasised enough. Climate change isn’t linear and global temperatures will increase exponentially, even if our rate of emissions increases linearly over time. Warmer air holds more water vapor and melting permafrost releases additional greenhouse gases, both exacerbating the greenhouse effect.

[–] Chocrates 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s starting to sound like those cults who predict the end of the world every 10 years.

People have been trying to get people to care for 60 - 100 years with data and projections and it has done nothing.

Let the data speak for itself. Show the models and the projected results. I truly believe that we are in a dire position, but the current method of communication is not working.

As above, this was the first thing that was tried and it doesn't work, why would it work now?

Also, I don’t believe the feedback mechanisms are ever emphasised enough. Climate change isn’t linear and global temperatures will increase exponentially, even if our rate of emissions increases linearly over time. Warmer air holds more water vapor and melting permafrost releases additional greenhouse gases, both exacerbating the greenhouse effect.

True, but if we can't get people to care at all, they won't care about the nuance

[–] morphballganon 9 points 10 months ago

Most people are too dumb to understand projections.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

that works for you, not for most people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

That was my exact thought. They said it was too late 20 years ago. Stick to your guns and just tell people how fucked they are now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Keep in mind that the original papers probably use reasonable words like "increased effects", "vulnerability", and maybe even "irreversible".

The spokespeople take that and come up with phrases like "urgency", "crisis", and "last chance".

Then the media takes that and comes up with "We all gon' die".