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I really am interested to see it go up against the new snapdragon elite chip. Hopefully some competition at last!
I'd love a system with the efficiency of ARM and real out of the box support for Linux. Like a state-of-the-art Raspberry Pi.
I would love to see a state-of-the-art RISC-V laptop, but we are not quite there yet. A good power efficient Linux laptop running on ARM would be pretty cool in the meantime.
I'm actually surprised how fast RISC V SBC have caught up with ARM based ones, but a laptop needs a lot more polish and mass production to be worth it.
As for ARM laptops, I'm afraid they will be windows only, secure boot or whatever, no GPU drivers, maybe even no wifi on Linux.
I have an M2 MacBook from work and it's the closest thing one can get. Really impressive performance and efficiency, and the OS is acceptable once you get used to it.
I had some fun today trying to install Windows 11 on an m2 mac in a virtual machine. Couldn't use virtualbox as their website was on holiday (bad gateway) so tried UTM. Set it to emulate x86 and have it a Windows 11 iso. About half an hour later it gets to asking about language ETC, and eventually crashed with an oobekeyboard error. Incredibly slow.
Tried again with an arm windows 11 download and native UDM and it worked OK. Not as fast as I'd expect, but I only gave it 4gb of ram.
Considering Asahi Linux exists which makes Linux on M model MacBooks possible, yet Apple is notorious for locking down their stuff and giving no hardware documentation whatsoever, I wouldn't say that outright. Secure Boot should allow you to enroll your own keys, for example...
Although it would also be extremely funny for the only mainline ARM laptops that can run Linux to be MacBooks.
Yes, but Asahi still doesn't support everything on the laptop, like microphones or speakers, and last time I checked the power consumption was also not as good as Mac OS.
The only way to put a shame on Apple is the Laptop OEM manufacturers ship their entry level laptops and mini desktop computers equipped with Snapdragon Elite X chip with baseline 16GB of RAM, and $50 to upgrade to 32GB, 512GB of SSD, and adequate price to upgrade without robbing the customers. If they really want to retain and re-capture the market share from Dracula Tim Cook before bleeding out much like the Nokia, this is a step to take before even more people get hooked up on Apple ecosystem, because once they are into the ecosystem, it is hard to get out from data and services they signed into it. I am curious if a class-action suit can be brought against Apple in the memory and SSD pricing debacles.