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That’s very Catholic of them.
Hell yeah, brother!
I didn’t mean it in a good way.
I'm Catholic, but I'm also a person, hello there! If you have any questions you like to ask about Catholicism, I'd try my best to answer them.
Which flavor of Catholic, though?
What do you mean?
There are hundreds of designations of Catholicism, owed to countless schisms within the Christian faith.
Do you really have a question about Catholicism you'd like to ask? It sounds like you're trolling.
I was interested in your point of view and theological discussion, as I am an ex-catholic of the roman inherited sect turned atheist, but seeing how you're either unable of uncomfortable with answering my question, I'll leave you alone...
Catholic means in communion with the Holy See. There are distinctions between different groups of Catholics within this but I wouldn't say they matter a lot... I am personally a Roman Catholic, hi!
I can’t perceive a situation where anyone would call me Catholic-like and I’d think it was in a good way personally.
I was referring to the days when the Catholic Church kept the Bible in Latin and hunted down anyone who had a copy of it in a local language, burned their Bible, strangled them to death and then burned their dead body at the stake to intimidate the public. I was also referring to the fact that Catholic masses were conducted in Latin until the 1980's.
Yeah, they did a Behind the Bastards (I think?) that touched on that that I heard a while back. Just so transparent with it being about control of the word of God to dominate the masses.
I didn’t know they STRANGLED people though with that.
Coooool guuuuys….
That's not why the Mass was and is celebrated in Latin, the history is much more complicated than that, as it usually is when discussing languages and culture.
No, it really isn't. They entire point was control. They claimed it wasn't.... but then again Russia claimed it wasn't at war, the Nazis claimed they were "curing" Germany, etc etc.
You can't trust a first party claim of reasoning without looking at it critically.
Source: former Catholic.
Ok....there's a lot to unpack there. I'm sorry you seem to have a dislike for the Catholics. I hope you will go further than wikipedia in your future research. Catholic Masses have always been celebrated in Latin and still are to this very day, along with thousands of other languages. Have a good Sunday.
I have a dislike for the church, not the laity (churchgoers). Regarding masses, I meant that masses were conducted exclusively in Latin until the 1980's - which makes those masses pointless for the laity, as Latin has been a dead language for centuries.
They're not pointless for the laity at all. Latin is a beautiful language which a lot of traditional Catholics find more reverent than, for example, English.
I myself prefer a good reverent Novus Ordo mass to a Tridentine one, but if I understood Latin well I would likely prefer the Tridentine.
Church services are for religious education. I’ll be honest, I’m not sure why masses were conducted in Latin until the 1980’s - despite Latin having died out centuries ago.
At best, Latin masses are more about the traditions of man than religious education. At worst, Latin masses are for religious obfuscation, rather than religious education.
It’s impossible to be educated in a language you don’t speak.
It would be one thing if all Catholics were required to learn Latin in school, but they’re not. Since Catholics aren’t required by the RCC to learn Latin and the RCC never taught it, most Catholics never learn it. The ones who do learn it do so either to learn more about the roots of the English language or because they intend to enter a scientific field.
Latin is also a dead language.
Most people - Catholics included - don’t speak Latin. It died out at least five centuries ago.
You’re only proving my point. Latin masses don’t benefit you. They don’t benefit most people - Catholics included. They haven’t benefited most people for centuries.