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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a European who doesn't know much about the states: This is pretty accurate. I would exchange gators for florida man and I don't know what the cars and crime one is but otherwise it's spot on.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Detroit Michigan, "motor city", is home to a lot of car manufacturers and also much crime.

[–] raef 4 points 1 year ago

Yet, Detroit is not included in the blue region

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah, I have heard of Detroit from probably some movie but I didn't know it was associated with cars or crime.

[–] roboticide 5 points 1 year ago

Detroit was the setting of RoboCop. Crime was pretty bad there in the 70s/80s. It's much better now and the city is turning around.

However, worth noting that Detroit is in the lower peninsula of Michigan, and the blue "cars & crime" part here is the upper peninsula, which is basically super rural and low crime. I suspect this was done intentionally, lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it went cars -> crime -> house techno (in that order). Am also not American but maybe know a bit more than most. I was expecting great lakes in that blue part.

[–] pirat 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

cars -> crime -> house techno

House music has its origins in Chicago. Techno music has its origins in Detroit.

Though the words are unfortunately being used almost interchangeably by unknowing people today, the genres are historically very different in terms of both technology, culture and other regional circumstances.

Yes, they do indeed musically have some elements in common, but even to this day, after years of evolution and borrowing of ideas, the two movements are still very different to each other, attracting different crowds, and the sum of the general sound of techno+subgenres is much different to that of house+subgenres.

To some people, everything with a 4/4 kick is the same. To me, it's like not differentiating between e.g. reggae and funk, or rock and disco. However, I understand why so many get it wrong, because most people around them do the same. I just thought I'd let you (and other people) know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I wasn't sure which one it was so I put both to keep it light hearted and accessible in my joke comment, but I'm actually a pretty big electro-head myself, having been a raver, hobbyist D&B DJ and producer (trip hop) for like, what, 20 years ;) Thankfully at much slower rhythms for a long time already though, that stuff will kill ya.

But it gets even more fun once you realize that we don't even really use the same definitions for things here in Europe as you guys do in the US. What I call techno probably isn't even made there. Like, I don't mean offence or anything but from my (limited) direct exposure but mostly all I see from online, videos, discussions etc it's just so different there and doesn't go nearly as deep/dark/hard as we do here, like everything has that sugar coating while we're out there in our black hoodies under a damp bridge tearing it up if you know what I mean.

Honestly I feel like what you were explaining there is way better known these days though, like yeah when I was a kid people would just say anything electronic was techno and I'm sure some still do but also feel like it's way more mainstream now so way more people understand a few different genres at least. I'm also not one to want to get uber-specific with my labels anyway, like I'm more a breakbeat guy myself so I slice it up a bit more there (jungle, jump up, neuro, liquid, technical, intelligent d&b, crossbreed and so on) but with 4 on the floor stuff I'll pretty much just be aware of like, trance (but not the Tiesto trash I mean the good psytrance shit), what is called "Tekno" in France, the Berlin type stuff like Drumcode label, hardstyle, French core, speedcore etc but like, mildly. Miles away from any of the house style stuff.

These days I've softened up a lot and mostly listen to downtempo stuff and just a lot of random different kinds of music, both electronic, acoustic and everything in between.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it even still have a lot of car manufacturers? Or any?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, GM and Chrysler are still big employers in the city. Ford is still headquartered in nearby Dearborn.

[–] roboticide 1 points 1 year ago

Michigan has more automotive manufacturing facilities than any other state, nearly 1,000 if you count all the suppliers and distribution hubs. And despite Stellantis now being French-owned and abandoning their headquarters, Ford and GM are still present with many dozens of facilities as well as their respective HQs.

Next closest is Ohio with only 600.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Give about 3/4 of the New York section to Incest, and it's closer to reality. New York doesn't make it across the Appalachian mountains, but Incest extends north at least to the Ohio river.