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Israeli authorities have confirmed the death of Shani Louk, a 23-year-old Israeli-German woman who was taken by Hamas militants during an attack on the Supernova music festival on Oct. 7.

According to the BBC, Louk’s death was confirmed after investigators matched her DNA with a sample taken from a skull bone fragment. It’s not yet clear where or when the skull fragment was found. Louk’s body also hasn’t been located yet.

As such, an exact cause of death hasn’t been officially determined. Speaking with the German TV news channel RTL/ntv, Louk’s mother, Ricarda, said she believed her daughter may have been shot in the head during the attack. “At least she didn’t suffer,” Ricarda said.

On Twitter, the Israel Foreign Ministry said, “We are devastated to share that the death of 23 year old German-Israeli Shani Luk was confirmed. Shani who was kidnapped from a music festival and tortured and paraded around Gaza by Hamas terrorists, experienced unfathomable horrors. Our hearts are broken. May her memory be a blessing.”

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[–] ReluctantMuskrat 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Both sides can be, and have been, terrible.

[–] itscozydownhere -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah absolutely. I will still not side with Hamas

[–] ReluctantMuskrat 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I won't either, and I think most decent people wouldn't. But that doesn't mean you have to side with Neten-yahoo's Israel either.

My heart is heavy for the Palestinian civilians that are being absolutely massacred now. They aren't allowed to leave the area, they did nothing wrong and Israel says, after the fact, "some bad guys might have been hiding in your building and needed to die. We know lots of innocent men, women and children were there too, but we don't want our soldiers to be in harms way so instead of coming in on foot, we're going to bomb the entire building and say "sorry, not sorry" for all the dead babies afterwards." Repeat x 1000

Imagine a building with 3 terrorist holding 10 hostages as human shields and 50 more innocents locked in the building with them. The police then say, "yeah, we have them surrounded and they can't get away. We don't want to let the customers out because one of them might be a terrorist in disguise, and we don't want to negotiate, and if we send some swat in they might get shot, so we're going to bomb the whole building and be done with it. Sorry for the loses but we need to get those bad guys." That's what Israel is doing now, unsympathetically. They show just as little regard for civilians as Hamas.

[–] itscozydownhere 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I know, and it’s bad. I wish they didn’t. I mean, also in a cold way, it’s bad for their image too, and counter productive. But I’m also not sure what the alternative could be, terrorism and religious fundamentalism is really a bitch to eradicate

[–] ReluctantMuskrat 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alternative is you show empathy for the civilians and you go do the difficult task of eradicating the terrorists with soldiers on the ground. More Israeli soldiers die, for sure, but a whole lot less civilians and children die and the world empathizes with your difficulty, maybe even the Palestinian people.

But unfortunately the current Israeli government hasn't been treating the Palestinians like humans, and isn't about to start.

[–] itscozydownhere 1 points 1 year ago

That could be a better strategy but also it will hardly work. As bombings won’t either of course. Really fucked up situation