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submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, "the public" is who is going to do the forcing. Or are you just sitting back and hoping that the capitalist-owned state is going to do the forcing without us rising up?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Blaming the individual members of the public instead of the companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I guess that could be aimed at what the post is criticizing, sure. I'd call it a stretch to say "We need to 'eat the rich' " is doing such blaming. Maybe I misread the "still" in your original comment, though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eating the rich isn't even relevant to this topic anyway since the problem is pollution and waste, not wealth inequality. Saying that eating the rich is the solution is saying the poor need to rise up and take stuff, which won't solve anything when the problem is the stuff existing in the first place. Plus it puts the onus on the poor to act, instead of acknowledging that society as a whole should expect their government to regulate companies for the benefit of society.

Most likely I missed the point where eat the rich lost any actual meaning related to its origin like gaslighting or pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It is extremely relevant, because the pollution and waste don't come from nowhere; they come from capitalism and its profit motive. Yes, the oppressed (that's the whole working class, not just people who are typically categorized as "poor") must act in order to gain the autonomy and power to be able to shape our environment. The onus is 100% on us. Simply "expecting" the oppressive institutions of nation-state governments to suddenly stop being beholden to the capitalists they were designed to protect and serve is not going to do it. Of course it isn't "fair" for the onus to be on the oppressed and not the oppressors, but it's how power fucking works.