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I think unless the HAP bit is specifically set to 1, Intel ME is still active on consumer boards, just without an interface for the OS to interact with it. Not sure if someone has hacked an OEM UEFI/BIOS to interact with it, but I have seen a different MAC address from my PC on my network before, and this is without any virtual adapters. This is the only explanation I can come up with.
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated! Could you provide a source for someone who has reverse-engineered a recent version of ME and has found not much incriminating behaviour for consumer motherboards?
Unfortunately,
me_cleaner
doesn't seem to work too well with newer chips. Fortunately for me, I'm planning to purchase older computers, but for people who aren't, this doesn't help much (as far as I can see).Thank you for the idea of extracting the BIOS to enable the HAP bit. Won't it require some serious reverse-engineering chops to find the HAP bit and enable it inside of such a binary blob? I'm not really used to Ghidra yet haha.
If I remember correctly, ME uses its own MAC address, but the same IP address of the host. Or maybe this is no longer the case. How would it extract packets though? Won't that require serious compute power? Or does it look for packets with specific labels identifying them?
Thanks for letting me know about MEinfoWIN. I'll try and find it!
Thank you, that clears it up. I'm not as informed on this matter as I used to be in the past, apologies for any assumptions I might have made.
Thanks for the link and the link to the PR, I might try this with a PC or two in time. Do I need Intel Audio for Pipewire to work? I didn't quite grasp the ramifications of certain parts of the firmware not working such as Audio and Sleep; would I need to find a software solution for Sleep? Also, will this affect C-states by any chance?
That makes a lot of sense. Maybe I was looking at something different in my network at that point. Thanks again!
Thanks. I was planning to use a USB connection to a DAC for audio, but I'd like to be able to use the speakers on my monitor too, if possible. I'll be using a desktop computer.
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