I'm fucking done with Chrome. Fuck this.
this post was submitted on 25 Oct 2023
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Maps, Earth, Translate, Android, Gmail, and a lot more. Unfortunately, most of these were made years ago.
Oh Maps is an ad-fest all right. Nothing like needing to read a street name or see a particular business but Google says, “Oh no, I this is what you really want to see!”
Maps and earth are ok at best, other businesses were better but then google bought them ( cough waze cough ). Translate is meh and deepl is better. Android is okish, but only if you use stock, lineageOS or GrapheneOS with at most minimal google services. Gmail... I never use.
They were services that started out nice, but got bloated with ad and spying over the years that theyve become meh at most in my book, sadly
Ive never used grapheneOS tbh. Should give it a go someday then!
Ive always used LineageOS, and installed the nano google services package afterwards. Time to shake it up a bit if i can i suppose! ( i do use android auto, but with voice app disabled )
Just did some research as it all sounds very good, and they dont support the fairphone 4. Some of their arguments are legit ( missing cpu features ), some of them are questionable ( fairphone not releasing security patches fast enough. Idk, lineagoeos seems to release weekly together with the android releases? ). Guess ill have to look at grapheneOS at the future when i look at a new phone ( so in 7 or 8 years lol )
Thats too bad. I dont plan on buying a new phone in , at least, 6 years so itll have to wait then.
I know fairphone might look to be slow on driver update, but afaik they skipped a few versions to go straight to android 13. And i also know they try to maintain their own drivers so they provide support even if the soc vendor doesnt.
Its a very complex thing tbh, but ill keep grapheneOS on my radar!
i do agree maps, earth, and translate are very good, and their open source counterparts are not nearly as good, but android is not entirely made by google, and (i believe) aosp is fully foss with no google crap. gmail is admittedly very nice to setup and use, but is pretty unremarkable, being essentially just another email provider, but free
I don't know about tutanota but Proton is only end to end encrypted to other users of Proton and that's very rare to encounter.
You can also use openPGP on Gmail, but that is also very uncommon since pretty much no one uses openPGP.
Gmail is great because it's free and does its job perfectly fine. An email provider doesn't need more.
Apparently Gmail was the best many years ago but I guess everyone else caught up.
You can encrypt your emails on Gmail too.
I have thought about switching for many years, but I haven't pulled the trigger. Sounds like a lot of work
It also seems like K9 mail isn't supported with proton and thunderbird support is a little more annoying to set-up.
And you know, free is nice.
5 euro a month is little more than I would want.
I have a free account that I made years ago, but I haven't used it for anything.
Btw, most emails are not end to end encrypted on proton. Only emails from/to other proton users or emails sent/received using their "password-protected emails" feature and of course any emails sent/received from anyone that's using openPGP.
Also the free tier only includes 500 MB of storage which is extremely little, it also doesn't include IMAP support which is a deal breaker, it also injects ads into your sent emails which is stupid.
I will try it for a short time and see.
For me to keep using it (and pay, because the free tier is pretty bad) it really needs to be better and not just in the privacy sense. I also need more money.
All my emails in Gmail are 2,7 GB and of course I would want to import them, what's the point otherwise.
Yes, I know. I thought I said that earlier.
The workaround isn't possible to use with a free account.
Yes, that is what I mean. I don't know about Apple since I don't use anything from Apple, but you can't turn off the footer with a free proton account.
It's clearly an ad for Proton. I have nothing against it except that it's impossible to turn off. Also it's stupid to have those for the web app, as they are meant for the receiver to know that you're on a mobile and maybe can't respond.
Yes, I know. I just don't know if it's worth 4,99 €/month
@netchami @lud you can bypass no imap thing with electronmail, which is an unofficial protonmail app electron style.
@netchami yeah, but isn't it broken rn?
@netchami looks like hydroxide works for now, but you can view your email offline with electronmail as well
@netchami I don't think it does. I don't see any options to add a tutanota account and tutanota has their own application anyway
@netchami that might be the case, since tutanota has an appimage now