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Wayland pros and cons? (iusearchlinux.fyi)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hey guys, what are the pros and cons to wayland if I intend to use my PC for gaming + others?

Comparisons to X?

General impressions?

Your advice on if I should use it or stick with X?

My PC parts are arriving soon, and while Ive been a linux user since 2016 its the first time I intend to fully main drive linux, so I guess im just looking for as much information as I can get on it.

Feel free to post links to articles or anything that will answer if you prefer, we're on a link aggregator after all ;) and I dont mind reading.

Thanks in advance :)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is something that I am sure will be solved eventually, but one of the major weaknesses of Wayland is the lack of lightweight standalone compositors.

For example, if I want a lightweight stacking window manager on X, I can choose between Openbox, Fluxbox, FVWM, IceWM, Pekwm, JWM, Window Maker, hell even twm if I were a masochist. I have tried out all of these at one point or another and they all have something to offer users. But using Wayland, there's, uhh, labwc, and that's it? Maybe I could try using kwin standalone?

The situation for tiling window managers is similar, with Sway being the only one that feels mature.

I plan on migrating from Openbox to labwc at some point in the future, once it's ready. labwc itself is really good, but some of the other programs I need to recreate my setup aren't there yet. Someday...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But using Wayland, there’s, uhh, labwc, and that’s it? Maybe I could try using kwin standalone?

There is a big list here (Although a lot of them are not mature).

Wayfire and hikari also comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is the #1 showstopper issue for me. Until it's possible to do the equivalent of EXWM switching is not really an option for me. Somebody has presented preliminary work on this at EmacsConf last year but it still has ways to go.
Unfortunate that we have taken such a big backwards step in this area.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have experience with tiling window managers and wayland. Any suggestions for a WL compatible bspwm-esque one? I dislike the way i3 handles tiling, which is the only other one other than bspwm that ive tried. Also one which is reasonably well documented?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

bspwm is probably my favorite general-purpose tiling window manager. I have not personally tried this out yet, but River is superficially similar, with the main configuration done through a combination of shell scripting and riverctl commands. I'm not sure how the tiling behaves in comparison though.