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Last great games were Skyrim and New Vegas. FO4 was ok.
76 and Starfield are absolute garbage
What’s wrong with star field, I’m about 200 hours in and still am enjoying it
It's not garbage it's just classic Bethesda, by which I mean current classic Bethesda, as opposed to classic classic Bethesda.
Have you noticed how pretty much every mission is, fast travel to place x, kill a bunch of grunts, loot the body of the main guy, fast travel back to quest giver, get money.
The story is fine but the gameplay loop is just dull.
I want to fly my ship around and I want a moon buggy (What's the point of entire procedurally generated planets if you can't look at them, I know they're boring but still).
I just played Morrowind for the first time. If you talk to someone not facing you, they will not rotate to look at you. This feature is still in Starfield
Turning characters to look at you requires game boy level technology, I don't think Bethesda developers ready for that level just yet.
They still haven't figured out how to store inventories in code.
Wait, what? What's this about inventories?
I see current classic Bethesda as just a modders sandbox. Which I actually like. So starfield has been inline with my expectations.
Moon buggy mod may come out eventually. You can ride dragons and fly around in Skyrim.
Its empty. Nothing is happening on the planets. You walk for minutes from one place to the next, have 2 loading screens in that time and nothing of interest is happening
Just because it's about space doesn't mean it can't be written well, or have any well thought out game design, or any optimization.
By that logic racing games should include days and days of travelling and preparation between each race, plants in survival games should take at least 2 months of real time to grow and management games should require you to fill tax forms.
Hating Bethesda is cool at the moment so people only discuss the negatives of starfield and not the positives.
Having said that I'm only 8hrs in so my opinion isn't worth shit really. But I'm enjoying it so far having met constellation and then just fucked off on my own for a bit to explore
Seems to be really divided. Probably related to how people perceive the main game loop. You either hate it, in which case you'll be restricted to the main quest, which isn't very long; or you love it, in which case you can keep playing for hundreds of hours.
Honestly, I think that's been my main problem with Starfield. Modern Bethesda games feel like they are made by people who love the term "Gameplay Loop". To the point where playing Starfield feels more like a looter shooter than it does a "Classic Bethesda" game.
You can enjoy it, but that doesn't mean it's good. I would just have fun with it if you don't see any problems. Otherwise if you're curious, go and find the reviews that outline very clearly how bad it is.
I would describe Fallout 4 as Mid, but I still out over 1000 hours into it. Never progressed the main story past meeting my Son.
Starfield is lacking that charm that FO4 had. Post-apocolyptic Boston had more working computers to read lore of of than in all the settled systems.
I had forgotten how pointless the computers were. Barely any lore on them even. And the worst simply Open Door that is right in front of you.
You would think that was the worst way to open the door. But then you remember the red button on the very thin pole that opens doors.