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Tesla warns that a federal probe into whether it exaggerated the range of its cars may lead to a ‘material adverse impact on our business’ (fortune.com)
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Tesla warns that a federal probe into whether it exaggerated the range of its cars may lead to a ‘material adverse impact on our business’::Earlier this year, Reuters reported that Tesla had created a special “diversions team” to avoid dealing with complaints from customers about their vehicle ranges. 

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly. I don't think Tesla showing the EPA range after degradation and state of charge is anything to be concerned about. If there's a problem with doing that, then the problem lies with the EPA/regulations.

I'm not sure what this whole different numbers at 100% vs at 50% is unless they do turn on a guess-o-meter if you reach 50%, or maybe Tesla is fudging the battery degradation to show a higher 100% and then adjusts it as you start driving, but either way, I don't think it's the big deal this articles title is trying to make it out to be. The number at 100% will be accurate to the EPA test cycle on a new vehicle, and I think that's the critical piece here. They aren't lying about that. The numbers have been audited.

I do still think we need better more accurate EPA tests.

Edit: Actually if they are lying about the level of degradation to fudge the numbers, that could impact warranty claims and the 30% threshold, so that would be bad.

[–] abhibeckert 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some people have complained that their Tesla does half the estimated / EPA range when they drive in winter. If those complaints are accurate then it's a valid complaint.

Everyone knows range is weather affected, but not by half. If it's that bad then people need to be told - they shouldn't find out when they get stuck with a flat battery on the side of the road in a snow storm that they probably shouldn't be driving in. That's dangerous and it will happen if the range estimate says you have more than enough charge to reach your destination.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 1 points 1 year ago

It would probably make sense for the EPA to have a cold weather test to help give a better picture.

Cold weather really isn't 50%, especially with the heat pumps. Like maybe on a non heat pump, if you don't preheat, and have a lead foot directly onto a highway, but even then.

All that said, none of that is the doom and gloom of the title if that's all it is.

I still think the real risk is from AP/FSD.

This range thing probably won't result in anything significant