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Traditionally, retiring entails leaving the workforce permanently. However, experts found that the very definition of retirement is also changing between generations.

About 41% of Gen Z and 44% of millennials — those who are currently between 27 and 42 years old — are significantly more likely to want to do some form of paid work during retirement.

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This increasing preference for a lifelong income, could perhaps make the act of “retiring” obsolete.

Although younger workers don’t intend to stop working, there is still an effort to beef up their retirement savings.

It's ok! Don't ever retire! Just work until you die, preferably not at work, where we'd have to deal with the removal of your corpse.

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[–] hydrospanner 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, that sounds ridiculously boring.

I feel bad for anyone who's identity and self worth is so tied to their job that they'd feel this way.

If I woke up tomorrow and was told I could keep receiving my current income for the rest of my life, but I just wouldn't have to actually put in the time and do the work?

I would never touch that work again.

There's so many things I could do, activities to try, things to learn, and skills to develop that I could never imagine getting so damn bored with my life without work that I'd ever remotely consider getting back into the work force.

Work is what I do in order to afford the life I want. It's not the life I want.

[–] systemglitch 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've not worked for ten years, and I've never been happier. Not a moment of boredom and I get to throw myself into whatever hobby I want.

I feel real sad for people who can't comprehend enjoying free time.

What do they do, stare at walls and watch paint dry?

I feel more in touch with myself and other people than ever before

[–] CosmicCleric 4 points 1 year ago

I’ve not worked for ten years, and I’ve never been happier. Not a moment of boredom and I get to throw myself into whatever hobby I want.

So much this.

[–] Nahdahar 5 points 1 year ago

I love my job, but doing whatever the fuck I want kind of beats it. I have many project ideas and also some skills I want to learn, would finally have time to go all in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you considered that some people might actually enjoy their jobs?

I'm not saying you do but that's fine, but you're pretty much saying that working has to be boring and undesirable, which it absolutely doesn't have to be.

[–] hydrospanner 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying you do but that's fine, but you're pretty much saying that working has to be boring and undesirable, which it absolutely doesn't have to be.

I'm saying nothing of the sort.

All I'm saying is that if you're working at a job, you're being paid to do what your employer asks you to do. If you happen to enjoy it, great, but that's incidental, your only choice is to keep doing what they want or to stop and then stop getting paid.

If you don't have to work, though, now you get to choose what to do with your time. And if the thing you'd most want to do with that power of choice is to give it right back to your employer, then idk...just seems sad to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What's you opinion on volunteering then? Maybe people do it because it makes them feel good that they're doing something they want to.

And they're not getting paid to do it.

Why not do something you enjoy and get paid while you're at it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What I do for work is also my hobby outside of work! I enjoy work due to the new challenges that come and require solving. If I'm working on my own stuff I end up side-tracked and never actually finish things which gets demoralizing quickly. Work helps keep me on task so I can actually get to have the satisfaction of a job well done