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Why is the indigenous voice to Parliament so controversial? (self.australia)

submitted 2 years ago by Narc082 to c/[email protected]

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I thought a group dedicated to ensuring the matters affecting any group of peoples are represented in Parliament would be a good thing. And if this is not "good enough", how will it have a worse outcome than voting no.

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[–] TheShane 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think - and I'm open to being corrected - that percentages aside, the fact that the Aboriginal people have been dispossessed of their lands, enslaved, had their children taken, and been denied voting rights... I do believe that wanting to right wrongs is a good aim.

I honestly don't know if this voice to parliament is good or not, because I'm not sure what it will achieve. If it is in order to better protect traditional and sacred places, then let's go. However, if it allows removing landowners from their farms etc, then that's a hard no from me.

As I said though, I'm not sure what the final aim is here. Hopefully in the next 6 months, someone will make it clear for me.

[–] Knoll0114 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I would agree with all that and I'm not yet convinced of my vote. However, I don't really see how the wrongs could ever be righted without more wrongs (eg. Removal of non-indigenous people from land.) We cannot change history, so for me I would need to believe the indigenous rep is a move forward.

Edit: though it is a different situation I see some parallels with Zionist arguments for the establishment of Israel (which obviously went much further than the creation of a dedicated voice.) I don't believe that historic claim to land is a good argument.

[–] TheShane 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neither did removing the whites from the farms in Zimbabwe.

[–] Knoll0114 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. For the indigenous vote thing to be a good step for me it has to be a move forward not an attempt to atone for the past.