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I saw a good article on c/upliftingnews about AI improving traffic signal controllers. It's good and all, I just can't help but think of the "look at what they need to have a fraction of our power" meme while reading it

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes, but you don't need lights if there are only bikes. Lights are there to prevent heavy vehicles from colliding. If there are no heavy vehicles, then the lights aren't needed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Also since bikes take up less space more can cross in the same time

[–] jungle 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you're ok with getting hit by another bike (or several) when you go through an intersection.

Unless you live in a small town, if everyone used bikes, city centre intersections would be mostly mountains of crashed bikes and people trying to get out of that mess while more bikes continue to pile on.

[–] Tom_0334 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All green on a large car intersection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIqCei97M74

Intersection designed for bikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RQrKP9a0XE

People on bikes naturally avoid and communicate with each other non-verbally.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in the Netherlands. There are so many bikes there is traffic jams out of bikes, there are piles of bikes everywhere.

No, you don't need traffic lights for bikes, only if there are high speed heavy vehicles. I wouldn't even say it's just the heaviness, it's the heaviness coupled with speed that makes them necessary.

[–] jungle 3 points 1 year ago

Ok, I need to experience this myself, but I'll take your word for it.

I was just thinking of the normal speed I cycle at when going to work, which is 25 - 30 km/h, and can't imagine that not causing issues on intersections if there were no red lights.

Of course the answer is to slow down at intersections :)