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I think all of the different front ends that exist for Lemmy should also take the approach that they don't display up/downvote buttons on user pages. Is there any way to make this a by-default thing for old.lemmy, etc?
Currently Lemmy UI doesn't have that capability however Kbin shows who upvoted. You can also see the number of up/down votes a post has through certain apps such as Memmy.
Vote manipulation will be tricky to enforce, since votes can come from any Instance due to the whole federation thing, if the user uses the same username on their account it's easy but if not it can be very difficult if not impossible.
"vote manipulation" is not a real thing on the internet. Nobody is being elected to a position of power. Ergo the conditions required for the word to apply do not exist. The reason is not there. Having your post at the top of a web page for an hour is not equivalent to four years of direct influence upon policy.
Concluding that a couple extra updoots on a post merits deletion of someone's identity is more obviously bad behaviour than the problem it attempts to address, which is no problem at all.
Why are we copycatting the place everyone is trying to get away from?
This is a weird take. You're strawmanning hard here. Who was attempting to equate real life election fraud and vote manipulation? Completely separate things.
Also, vote manipulation is bad and should be avoided where possible. It undermines the purpose of voting, which is to allow users to determine what good content is. If vote manipulation is allowed, someone could decide that their content is good all on their own.
Friend, we've imported a term from democracy to strawman with. You're familiar with the concept, therefore surely you can see that! The strawman IS the term from democracy, imported to lend significance to an insignificant act nobody actually does. YOU just used the strawman. If we gave the thing its own name it would not have the weight it seems to have now. Bots are a different problem, no real human does this thing by hand to any impactful degree. IT IS NOT A REAL THING and if anybody actually did it it would be pathetic, but certainly not a crime worthy of punishment.
Again, why import the failed model's rules? It's a made up problem, borrowing a name from a sphere of actual significance, to lend it credence so as to be a dick to people.
Just fuck off with all that noise, you know? (Not you personally.) The crime is not important enough to merit identity theft - or, oh dear, is that term too extreme to fit the situation too?
There were literally well-respected users who did this to garner admittedly pointless influence and suffered backlash because of it. Acting like people wouldn't do this when we have seen it done is really bizarre. And your hyperbole makes it even harder to take your stance seriously.