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The final figure will be significantly higher. Asked if the figure was likely to exceed €10 billion, he said: “Yes, we are talking about such magnitude.”

You can't take money with you, but we will leave an atmosphere behind

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

And even if you were able to keep building it, you will soon run into the storage problem which is still potentially more costly

I will tell you a secret: Nuclear power doesn't work without storage either. That's just something they will not tell you as that's their biggest pro-nuclear/anti-renewable argument.

Nuclear is expensive and running the amount necessary in winter is only viable because you have an overproduction most of the year to export. But when everyone runs either on nuclear, nuclear and renewables or renewables and storage, there is no demand most of year (as everyone is overproducing) and also nobody to import from in a few especially cold weeks in winter (so you need even more nuclear power you won't need most of the year). That's completely unaffordable unless you put in storage in place to cover some of your winter demand and export time-independent when there is demand in other countries (which is why French models for 2050+ plan with huge capacities of hydrogen production - not the most efficient way of storage, but good for export).

where it’s buildout may have to be many times more expensive to save power for months

Actually weeks. Wind and solar are quite complementary. So you only need to cover the rare circumstance of cloudy and windless... which doesn't happen more than may 3 weeks a year, barely more than a few days in a row (in a lot of countries even less if you geographically diversify).

[–] JesseoftheNorth -2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Nuclear energy is backed by big business and a lot of money. It’s a big cash cow and there is a lot of money and effort spent to manufacture public support for it, and they use troll farms to push their agenda, no doubt. Am I the only one that finds it a little suspicious that it’s always the same few talking points whenever the topic is mentioned? Whenever there’s a discussion about investing in renewable energy, there are always nuke bros popping up, bombarding the thread, derailing the discussion.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's weird that every time you read about nuclear power the truth hasn't changed? Do you also find it suspicious that every time math is discussed 1+1 continues to equal 2? Perhaps Big Business (who?) are employing troll farms whenever the topic is mentioned?

[–] JesseoftheNorth -1 points 10 months ago
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