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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The content will stay, at least in terms of posts. If the value-adders go to other sites, someone will just repost that value back to reddit.

It'll devolve into something like instagram, where it's literally impossible to discuss anything in the comments. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they stop making money.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The content will stay, at least in terms of posts.

Content loses relevance over time, and becomes increasingly harder to retrieve as noise piles up: pointless threads, re-re-re-reposts, "marketing opportunities" (i.e. spam), so goes on. Reddit Inc.'s actions pissed off specially bad the people who were removing that noise - moderators.

someone will just repost that value back to reddit.

Usually you'd have the contributors doing this; the lurkers don't care about sharing. But even if someone/something (AI) consistently keeps posting stuff from other platforms back into Reddit, those newer posts will be further removed from the original source, and they'll arrive later. Reddit stops being the "front face of the internet" to become "yet another bottom feeder of the internet".

where it’s literally impossible to discuss anything in the comments. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean they stop making money.

In Reddit's case, I think that it does. Reddit might've started as a link aggregator, but its main value was as a forum platform. Without the ability to discuss anything deeper than "two plus two equals GOOD! EDIT WOW THANKS FOR THE GOLD, KIND STRANGER!@!11ONE", it's just yet another link aggregator again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree and those reasons you listed are why I don't have any issue parting ways with this platform, but I don't think the general public does. People do use instagram and tiktok to view what I (and I'm guessing you do too) consider noise.

And after all, the general public is who views the ads on their site and brings in the money.

As someone who spends time curating the content I view without any care given to what other people enjoy, I'm often shocked at how terrible the content on something like youtube's front page is when I get logged out. It's easy to forget that a lot of people just don't care and use the internet to turn off their brain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right that noise is subjective (it might be noise for one, content for another), but it's only partially so. Most people don't like old, repetitive or misplaced content; they don't like spam either, so those things are almost always noise. And yet I think that they'll become more and more common there over time.

You mentioned TikTok and Instagram; that's less about noise vs. content and more about high quality vs. low quality. Plenty people have low standards, but even those prefer quality stuff; so once content quality drops down (I'm predicting that it will), they'll have less reasons to look for content in Reddit instead of elsewhere.

Also, note that 47.58% of the traffic of the site is generated by "organic search". Once creators are gone, those 47.58% are going away, too. They won't be googling stuff like "how to shoot web site:reddit.com" if they know that Reddit will provide mostly junk results.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never used Instagram; why is it impossible to discuss anything there?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The comments by people consist of nothing but emojis and occasionally one to five words.

Scattered around that, you'll also find a lot of bots spamming websites that either sell cheap stuff like LED lighting and swamp coolers with ridiculous markups (about 10x) or are straight up scams.

Those could be filtered out easily but instagram just cares more about the traffic than their users.

With moderators leaving en masse, reddit will move into that direction. They won't ever get this shitty, but definitely a lot closer than they are now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’s not impossible, just inconvenient. Instagram was made to show off pictures, so when you open someone’s Instagram, all you see is a grid of pictures by default. If you want to read the captions and comment, you have to click on a pic and then click on the 💬 to view the comments and add your own. In a world where most places only make you click “send” to comment, it’s slightly more work than most people want for an online discussion.