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...conclude that “shifting priorities” about family, careers, and how to allocate one’s time and resources is the most likely explanation for the dramatic reduction in rates of childbearing seen among more recent cohorts of young adults. We have not found compelling data support for more readily observed (and potentially altered) policy or economic factors, like the price of childcare or rent.

So, is this a problem to you at all? If it is, then how would you address it? If it isn't, is this a problem that can be addressed along with addressing what you believe is the greater problem? How?

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[–] orclev 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Declining birth rate is directly tied to declining quality of life. There's no one cause but a bunch of interlinked ones. Dealing with climate change would address concerns about the future of the planet. A universal single payer healthcare like pretty much the entire rest of the world has would help with both health concerns and financial concerns. UBI would help with worries about future employment and job market as well as financial concerns. Straight outlawing first past the post voting and enacting some kind of proportional voting system would help address concerns around human rights and democracy. Just an across the board reevaluation of the way the government functions and replacing a number of things that are currently traditions or conventions with actual rules and policies would help with worries about future coup attempts.

At the local level, reevaluation of our approach to zoning and civil engineering would go a long way towards addressing a great many issues around transportation, housing, and the environment.

Pushing for much wider spread adoption of nuclear power would help with climate change, pollution, energy independence, and even international trade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

My first impulse was to give a glib response of, “is a declining birth rate something that needs to be fixed?” But you’ve made a case for it being a bellwether of several other societal issues that I see the cause for concern.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Declining birth rate is directly tied to declining quality of life.

Industrialized countries are the ones with declining birth rates, though. South Korea, Japan, some EU contries, and the U.S. are all experiencing declining birth rates with high GDPs. And, if you buy the GDP-Quality of Life link, then they have the highest qualities of life.

So, I'm not so sure this bit is true.

[–] orclev 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

GDP is a terrible measurement of quality of life, particularly with the rampant income inequality in the US. The average US citizens quality of life is significantly worse than it has been in decades.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I agree. I see little link between GDP and quality of life. Personally, I like the idea of fewer people, will never have kids, and am happy about it, so no problem with the issue here. I would, however, like to restructure the economy so it wasn't so dependent on an ever-increasing supply of young workers/consumers.