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Fediverse sustainability (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/fediverse
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I prefer good faith discussions please. I love the Fediverse and love what it can be long term. The problem is that parts of the culture want nothing to do with financial aspect. Many are opposed to ads, memberships, sponsorships etc The “small instances” response does nothing to positively contribute to the conversation. There are already massive instances and not everyone wants to self host. People are concerned with larger companies coming to the Fedi but these beliefs will drive everyday users to those instances. People don’t like feeling disposable and when you hamstring admins who then ultimately shut down their instances that’s exactly how people end up feeling. There has to be an ethical way of going about this. So many people were too hard just to be told “too bad” “small instances” I don’t want to end up with a Fediverse ran by corporations because they can provide stability.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their problem is that they allowed themselves to become too big and unsustainable in the long run.

[–] petunia 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just their problem. Even if every instance carefully load-balanced users with each other so that all instance were the same size and nobody was too big, there would still be a problem securing funding as the fediverse as a whole gets bigger.

Donations alone on the biggest instances aren't enough to keep the lights on, spreading out those users across other instances won't make more money suddenly materialize, in fact it might make money disappear faster, as smaller instances have a higher cost-per-user due to insufficient economies of scale.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If the instance becomes so big, that it depends on donations, then it is too big.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, I'm surprised how little I've seen this pointed out in this thread. There's essentially zero reason for instances to grow beyond basic sustainability.