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[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You've just been massively attacked. You push them back into Gaza sure. And then you just sit at the border with a ceasefire, watching them parade hostages on the street. Ok. But you'll also lift the blockade, so it'll be even easier to get in materials for new rockets, weapons and ammunition.

In what world will Hamas give themselves up to Hague for war crime tribunals?

And why would that stop Hamas? You've accomplished nothing.

Your first paragraph is nothing but fiction.

Let's summarize what you want to do. Push Hamas into Gaza. Let them do whatever they want in Gaza. Lift blockades so they can amass even more weapons. Hope that they will turn themselves over to be tried for warcrimes in Exchange for a ceasefire. And then that's that. Done and dusted, Hamas will never be a problem after that.

Are you for real?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And then you just sit at the border with a ceasefire, watching them parade hostages on the street

Well obviously as part of the ceasefire hostages need to be returned.

And why would that stop Hamas? You’ve accomplished nothing.

It did in 2008 and 2012. Hamas has respected its ceasefires so far.

. Lift blockades so they can amass even more weapons. Hope that they will turn themselves over to be tried for warcrimes in Exchange for a ceasefire.

Bro lifting the blockade comes after the ceasefires, not before. I'm not theorizing here; we've already had two of those (that Israel refused to follow).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In what world did any of it stop hamas? Do you have any idea how long it takes to amass that many rockets, weapons and parts for it to go under the radar? It very clearly didn't stop anything.

Look at the attack. Look at the naked hostages being paraded on the streets and tell me it stoped Hamas in 2012.

And "bro" even if the blockade is lifted after a "ceasefire" what exactly does that change? Are they physically not capable of starting to amass new weapons after a ceasefire? "Oh but they're not allowed to as the ceasfire" to which you'll get a massive. "Oh no.... anyway"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In what world did any of it stop hamas?

You'd know if you read about the two ceasefires I mentioned. Whenever Hamas made a ceasefire, they've generally kept it until it became clear Israel had no intention of lifting the blockade as promised.

Look at the attack. Look at the naked hostages being paraded on the streets and tell me it stoped Hamas in 2012.

Why should the 2012 ceasefire, which fell through because Israel didn't follow it, stop Hamas in 2023. If the blockade had been lifted you'd have had a point, but it wasn't.

“Oh but they’re not allowed to as the ceasfire” to which you’ll get a massive. “Oh no… anyway”

Uh... The threat of another blockade? That's kind of why people follow ceasefires; they want the fire to cease.