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Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (24 children)

The title is hugely misrepresenting the referendum.

Not even our conservative party, the liberals, opposed recognition of aboriginal and Torres islander people as the traditional owners of the land.

The neo liberal progressive party, labor, put in a change to political process. This is what people disagreed with.

[–] Capricorny90210 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

A bit off topic but, American here, the liberals are your conservative party? Interesting.

[–] LemmysMum 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

American politics are all right wing compared to other socially democratic countries.

Our major political parties are the Australian Labor Party (progressive/socialist), Liberal Party of Australia (capitalist/liberal), The Greens (environmental/progressive), National Party of Australia(authoritarian/regressives).

The Liberals and the Nats have a coalition called the Liberal National Party (LNP) because it's the only way they can get enough representation to get majority government.

Greens typically vote along Labor lines.

[–] Capricorny90210 2 points 8 months ago

I see. That's really interesting, thanks for the reply!

[–] JackFrostNCola 2 points 8 months ago

Further to this, Labor is Centre-Left, Greens are far-left, Liberal and Nationals are both far-right, with liberals being business interest focoused and the nationals being strongly rural community focused.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's worth noting that Australian and American interpretations of liberalism differ quite significantly. The modern Liberal party and its predecessors formed in direct opposition to the Labor party, in direct opposition to the labor movement. They formed as a party against radical social change, against socialism, and for free-market policies and laissez faire capitalism, describing themselves as "classical liberals". On the other hand, "liberalism" in the US more refers to social liberalism, but it's actually the exception in that regard.

All that is to say that, when Australians refer to someone as a liberal, we mean a different interpretation of the word closer to classical liberalism.

[–] Capricorny90210 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For an American, that's so counterintuitive lol.

[–] Cryophilia 7 points 8 months ago

I think the American definition of Liberal is the one that's different from the rest of the world.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 4 points 8 months ago

No, liberals are liberal. The Liberals (capital L) are fiscally liberal (good at wasting money) and socially conservative.

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