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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This situation was avoidable by ending apartheid. It was unavoidable within the framework of continuing Israel's colonization project.

As for leaflets, that is a crock of shit. It completely ignores the actual logistics of moving the civilian population out of the area. Covering their ass so they can deny their murderous intent, as I said. No rational person sees that as anything else.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A brief catalogue of how the goalposts have shifted:

First, there was a comparison of Palestinian deaths to Israeli ones. Well, that turned out to be totally empty for a variety of reasons including (but not limited to) Hamas' tactics that have the sole purpose of maximize Palestinian deaths.

Then, you decided that Gazans had nowhere to run since you couldn't leave Gaza. Well, sadly that didn't hold up very well since this operation was limited in scope to specific regions within Gaza, so there was no need to leave Gaza to avoid the bombing.

Next, you decided that the origins of Hamas were somehow relevant (besides pointing fingers, still not sure how this is relevant to your lovely theory of "whoever has more corpses must be in the right"). Unfortunately, that also turned out to be essentially a nothing burger, when the very source you decided to cite explicitly stated that a) it wasn't Israeli money funding Hamas, it was Qatari and b) the economic consequences of blocking that Qatari money would inevitably lead to war, leaving Israel no choice but to allow it.

Then, you decided to move the goalposts over to "but the Palestinians have no way of knowing since the power [that Israel provides free of charge] is off". Unfortunately, that also turned out to be baloney since Israel uses nontechnological means to warn Gazans of bombings.

When will the goalposts take off their roller skates and settle down? Great as your endurance might be, gish gallop is not a legitimate way to make a point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The goalposts are and remain in the same place: Israel is in the process of committing war crimes against the Palestinian people. What you call 'moving the goalposts' I call countering your deflections from this obvious fact.