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good alternatives to raspberry pi which are cheap and efficient? (monyet.cc)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/selfhosted

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Hello , dear lemmy users , I am starting to really like self-host because they are really fast and mostly i use open source stuff (like lemmy /photon etc) which were sometimes slow but after self hosting it now on the pc i am on using , i really like it

Now , I would like to host some stuff like jellyfin , navindrome , photon , adgaurd home and just leave it running on a device in maybe near future (i can convince my brother to pay for it , after he gets his job maybe)

TLDR : I wanted to ask What's your favourite alternative to raspberry pi for simple self hosting or maybe possible near home automation

Edit: thank you all for helping me , I am starting to believe that i should look into using dell wyse or the likes which are meant to be used for hosting or a old laptop (since i dont own a laptop anyway , i just own a pc ) and since i run linux anyways , i am thinking of owning a laptop dual booting it with alpine (that has docker) and a simple minimalist os like hyprland on it just in case i need to travel with it (which to me seems very unlikely , I dont travel much so..) I am confused about it

Edit 2 : I am very new to self hosting so currently i would run stuff on my pc only (using portainer) , However when needed to buy , i am thinking of buying the cheapest thin client maybe a nuc or dell wyse

I am already trying searxng , shiori(bookmark manager) , portainer,freshrss , photon , froodle-s pdf tool which i have all closed except portainer currently I am also thinking of shifting to podman as well but cant find a good gui for it like portainer , (portainer really just blew my mind with its templates)

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[–] AtmaJnana 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I use for my low intensity projects. I didn't realize the i7 ones were that cheap now, maybe I should grab another.

[–] seaQueue 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I7 doesn't mean much without knowing the CPU generation. A 4th Gen i7 is dirt cheap but is only 4c/8t and a power hog. Meanwhile a much newer i3 could be more capable at 1/3 the power.

Check eBay and you'll get a good look at pricing, Amazon sellers will take you for a ride here.

[+] folkrav 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] seaQueue 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't recommend anyone go older than 6th Gen Intel CPUs these days. They're already 6+ years old, anything before that doesn't usually support x86-64-v3 and the perf/watt just isn't worthwhile. Your total cost of ownership on, say, a Haswell i7 is going to be significantly higher than a Skylake machine even over the first year once you account for energy costs.

That doesn't even touch on iGPU performance or hardware codec support, you really want to go as new as possible if you're looking for media playback or transcoding - the energy cost on decoding alone without HW support is bananas.

Preferably you'd use Intel 8th gen (when the i3s stepped to 4c/8t and the i5/i7s went to 6c/12t) but I don't know how competitive pricing is on those these days. I'd try to stick with Zen2 on the AMD side if possible, that's about when their perf/watt really started to get good - I do have a soft spot for Zen1 embedded though, you can get great prices on v1756b boxes on eBay now (the HP T740) and those make nice virtualized 10Gb router platforms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Used "1-liter" business PCs which come with a modest amount of RAM+storage (assuming you're likely to replace/upgrade after buying anyway) and an 8th gen Intel CPU should run between ehhh like $125 to $250 depending on which model CPU, how much RAM etc. Totally worth it IMO, I use one with an i5-8500T as a Proxmox host for my web services and so far I'm quite happy with it. Snagged a deal on it a couple months ago, $110, shipped with 8GB RAM and a 256GB SSD which I immediately replaced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Preferably you'd use Intel 8th gen (when the i3s stepped to 4c/8t and the i5/i7s went to 6c/12t) but I don't know how competitive pricing is on those these days.

I bought a small form factor PC on eBay (HP ProDesk 600 G5) with a Core i5-9500, 8GB RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD for $199 around a year ago. I upgraded it to 32GB RAM and 1TB NVMe. Made a great home server with a bunch of stuff running on it. I actually want to sell it soon since I built a new server/NAS system.