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[–] SCB -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Terrorism is indeed when you kill civilians with no military aim in mind. Invading a country specifically to murder their families in their homes is absolutely terrorism.

[–] federatingIsTooHard 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Invading a country specifically to murder their families in their homes is absolutely terrorism.

by this definition every colonizer is a terrorist, which means that the israelis are terrorists. maybe we just shouldn't use the term, and instead condemn bad actions and bad actors on the merits of the actions without the political label.

[–] federatingIsTooHard 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Terrorism is indeed when you kill civilians with no military aim in mind.

why should the military aim matter? THAT'S PURELY POLITICAL. terrorism just means you don't LIKE the politics of the person doing the killing.

[–] SCB -3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Terrorism is explicitly killing done without military targets in mind. It's explicitly political, and targeted at civilians, to instill terror.

I'm sorry you don't like the definition of the word, but it is the definition of the word.

[–] federatingIsTooHard 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s explicitly political, and targeted at civilians, to instill terror.

like police shooting black men

[–] SCB -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No that's just good old fashioned racism combined with stupidly poor recruiting and training practices.

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

make any excuse you want: it fits the definition you gave

[–] SCB -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It really doesn't, but you'll never care about reason anyway. You're just another edgelord.

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

call me any names you want,: you're the one whose definition of terrorist includes cops

[–] SCB -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes I am aware that I am correct.

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] SCB -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No I'm not. I don't even have context because I don't care, but I don't change opinions easily because I'm almost always right

[–] federatingIsTooHard 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m sorry you don’t like the definition of the word, but it is the definition of the word.

it's loaded language. i know what the definition is, but using it only means you don't like the politics of the killers.

[–] SCB -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it means they're doing things that fit the definition.

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

being loaded language, using it actually means what I said.

[–] SCB -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every member of Hamas is likely going to die like the terrorist scum they are, and the world will be a markedly better place for it

Nothing you say will change that fact.

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Every member of Hamas is likely going to die like the terrorist scum they are, and the world will be a markedly better place for it

the phrasing makes me think you think this hurdtmy feelings. in truth it just shows your too small minded to understand why terrorist use a meaningless label

[–] SCB -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't care about your feelings. I care about dead terrorists.

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

again: terrorist isn't a meaningful epithet.

but you do seem obsessed with my feelings

[–] SCB -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No I don't even know who you are. I've never read your screen name. You could be the initial person I responded to or just some other idiot terrorist sympathizer.

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no one is sympathising with terrorists for any objective application of the label, because objective application of that label is impossible.

[–] SCB -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it's pretty easy. When you force your way into a place specifically to murder civilians with no other goal other than to spread terror, you're a terrorist.

You agreeing with terrorists makes you a bad person, it doesn't make them "not terrorists."

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

terrorist isn't an objective label, no matter how much emotionally charged language you use. what you described is murder. calling it terrorism is a political position.

[–] SCB -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

this isn't a refutation. it's an appeal to ridicule.

[–] SCB -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes that is what your every post deserves

[–] federatingIsTooHard -1 points 11 months ago

it's a fallacious argument that doesn't undermine my actual position at all, it just betrays a lack of ability or interest to engage with intellectual honesty.

[–] federatingIsTooHard 0 points 11 months ago

Terrorism is explicitly killing done without military targets in mind.

like police shooting black men