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Why are reproducible builds only on one platform (Android)? Desktop version could have a built-in backdoor and data would be transferred not from the phone, but from the PC)

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (5 children)

For the same reason its not on F-droid. They say "open source" but want to keep the source code to themselves. They are hostile to anyone who wants to fork it or create alternatives

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they're hostile to anyone who forks and creates alternatives using their servers. you're more than welcome making a fork on your own infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Since it's not federated like XMPP this is completely pointless when all the users are on their server.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

it's more about solutions for workplaces, for example.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Molly still exists. They are against those forks that have Signal in their name. But in general, yes, the software development/delivery process is more similar to corporate than open source

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

How can you be hostile to someone creating forks? If the code is there you can fork it. Do you mean they are hostile to people using alternative clients to connect to their servers?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Moxie always did keep rigid control of Signal's development and operations, often running contrary to users' concerns and needs. I don't think that has changed since he left.

He has argued at length against decentralized messaging. Requiring phone numbers is another example. Being bound to Google services is yet another: Signal dragged their feet on that issue for years, and when they finally did offer a non-google build, they hid it away on an unlinked page of their site and placed it below a "Danger" warning.

For all their talk of security and their contribution to the field of data privacy, some of their choices seem very strange, and the reasoning they offer is often dubious. I am not convinced that their motivations are aligned with my best interests. Their actions are certainly not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

They do still have the most reliable secure messager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

This comment doesn't make sense. They can't be hostile toward people forking code that they already open sourced.