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[–] sramder 11 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Anyone know how many hours of training data it takes to build up a convincing model of someone’s voice? It was 10’s of hours when I did a bit of research a year ago… the article says social media is the likely source of training data for these scams, but that seems unlikely at this point.

[–] CrabLangEnjoyer 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A current state of the art ai model from Microsoft can achieve acceptable quality with about 3 seconds of audio. Commercially available stuff like eleven labs about 30 minutes. But quality will obviously vary heavily but then again they're using a low quality phone call so maybe not that important

[–] sramder 3 points 1 year ago

That’s downright scary :-) I think it took longer in the last Mission Impossible.

30 minutes is still pretty minimal for the kind of targeted attack it sounds like this is used for. I suppose we all need to work with our families on code words or something.

I went in thinking the article was a bit alarmist, but that’s clearly not the case. Thank for the insight.

[–] madsen 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With that little, they may be able to recreate the timbre of someone's voice, but speech carries a multitude of other identifiers and idiosyncrasies that they're unlikely to get with that little audio, like personal vocabulary (we don't choose the same words and phrasings for things), specific pronunciations (e.g. "library" vs "libary"), voice inflections, etc. Obviously, the more training data you have, the better the output.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ElevenLabs only needs 1 minute, but it also works with even shorter clips.

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