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[–] FireTower -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Props are just items in the property of a production. Prop ≠ unable to be used to inflict harm. If a kitchen knife is bought for a production it is now a prop, but it still is sharp.

Safety rules don't cease being in effect because there's a camera. Safety is the responsibility of every on a job site regardless of industry. The 4 basic firearm safety rules can be taught in minutes and has he followed a single one in that moment no one would have been hurt.

[–] EncryptKeeper 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every other industry doesn’t have an armorer to take care of that for you so of course you’d be personally responsible in an industry outside of Hollywood. If you’d like the argue that Hollywood is going about firearm safety all wrong then there’s nothing wrong with that. But that is a Hollywood problem, it’s not specific to Alec Baldwin, and evidently the judicial system agrees.

[–] FireTower 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Having an armorer on site doesn't absolve every one of their duty to not endanger others around them do to negligence. Just like the OSHA inspector showing up isn't a good reason to operate a forklift drunk.

I do believe that this is in part an industry problem, but that doesn't excuse any individual in the industry's reckless behavior.

[–] EncryptKeeper 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It most certainly does excuse them, as evidenced by the fact that Alec Baldwin was not convicted of a crime. The point has been made that the industry has been doing this for decades and it’s only become “the individuals responsibility” when Alec Baldwin was involved, due primarily to his political beliefs. So it’s hard to take any argument to the contrary seriously when it’s so clearly politically motivated.

[–] FireTower 0 points 1 year ago

The last time there was as high profile of a case of a person on Hollywood being killed on set by accident via firearm was 30 years ago with Brandon Lee. It's "only become the individual responsibility" recently because for the better half of three decades the topic wasn't being discussed, because there hadn't been a incident to spark discussion. It's a work place H&S issue. If he had stabbed someone with what he thought was a rubber knife, it'd still be his fault.

Also charges against him were only dropped without prejudice as the prosecutor felt they hadn't gathered sufficient information to bring him to trial. As of April they're still collecting information to possibly return to the charges.

[–] some_guy 0 points 1 year ago

It absolutely does excuse them.

That is the point of an armorer.