this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
818 points (96.1% liked)

World News

38979 readers
2791 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The reports I've read claim that around 1,000 Hamas terrorist entered Israel. The IDF claims to have recovered the bodies of about 1,500 terrorists inside Israel. Given that this is an active conflict, it's not surprising that the numbers don't line up but they're of the same order of magnitude.

Since Hamas has hostages it's clear that at least some of those terrorists made it back to Gaza. It's also clear that the IDF has, by now, killed the vast majority of the terrorists who carried out these acts.

So who is currently being targeted by IDF ordinance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guess is the operation being carried out is to close the border with Egypt to establish full access control in and out of Gaza. Any other ops being carried out will either be hostage rescue, targeted attempts at black bagging participants and leaders of the attacks, or causing general mayhem to keep Hamas from being able to coordinate with itself for long enough to mount a counteroperation.

The end goal will be twofold, 1) gain customs control over all points of entry to the strip to neuter Hamas' ability to keep importing rockets and the parts to make their own, 2) sweep the strip for the leaders of the attack for as public and humiliating a comupence as can be legally dropped on them, and probably beyond that too. This attack put a serious black eye on Israel's hawks claiming they're the faction for tighter security that will keep the Israeli people safe, Bibi is probably seeing enough red that it's a sign of officials intervening against his worst reflexes that we're not witnessing a Srebenica scenario in Gaza right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They may move to tactics like that eventually but for now it's artillery and airstrikes. Netanyahu threatened to bomb Gaza to rubble and it looks like he's carrying that out.

I don't see anything targeted about the current retaliation; what we're hearing and seeing now is most consistent with a scorched earth policy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

considering gaza is 40% kids under 14..... children.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well given that the average age in Palestine is 18 I would guess children

[–] nbafantest -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nednobbins 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you claiming that all of Gaza is Hamas?

[–] nbafantest 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously not. You asked who is being targeted. And the answer is Hamas.

[–] nednobbins 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're not actually arguing that the IDF is not committing massive war crimes, you're just saying you don't care?

[–] nbafantest 1 points 1 year ago

I didnt argue anything. Please reread the thread. You asked a question, and I answered it.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

@nednobbins Palestinian children, as usual