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Why should they provide those things to a group they are at war with? After their government slaughtered a bunch of civilians?
The flip side of that coin is it's pretty bad to make a independent population, who can't vote in your elections, totally dependent on you. Preventing them from having independent sources of water electricity and food. Preventing them from self-determination and self-governance.
This all ties back to the core issues here. There's a population that has no autonomy, no say in its future, no say and it's foreign policy, de facto non-citizens in the state they can't participate in. That's not a stable situation, in any society.
Hamas, the elected government of Gaza, have vowed to exterminate Israel. Of course they're not going to let them self govern.
You only need to look at the West Bank for an example of how things would play out with a more cooperative Palestinian government. Same shit, no autonomy, no say in its future, no say in its foreign policy, with the added bonus of a slow ethnic cleansing as Israel slowly annexes it's land.
There are no good guys here.
To be clear, Israel is far from blameless in this, you're quite right about that.
It wasn't their government. It was an organisation started by an Israeli government at the time to combat the PLO
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election
Hamas is the elected government of Gaza.
and the median age of someone living in the gaza strip is 19.