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More thoughts on the ongoing microtransaction discussion. I personally agree with everything Datto says in this, and think he generally has more grounded takes than most in the community. I particularly agree with his thoughts on Cross' "pay-to-win" arguments.

What does everyone else think?

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[โ€“] Rull_9 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Silver is not pay to win, no matter what anyone says. 90% of its uses are for cosmetics, and any weapons that are unlocked via dungeon keys etc have (for the most part) alternatives.

[โ€“] dmmeyournudes 1 points 2 years ago

idk, saying you don't have better gear for buying content is just a lie. you can't play trials without paying, so you can't access any of those guns without inserting money. same for all but 2 raids and a dungeon, nightfalls won't let you run them if you don't own the expansion they're from too. i don't think the argument that buying the new releases is "Pay to Win" since this game isn't free to play, no matter what it says on the steam page. that's like saying wow is P2W because you can only level to 20 for free and need to pay a sub/expack to get better gear/levels. if the new gear is rewarded through a new form of content, it doesn't count. if you can just buy guns or rolls for guns or packs of mats, then that would probably be pay to win, but the small bits of mats and gear you get from the pass require you to buy the season, witch is content, and paying for the levels is just the stupidest thing that people pay for, just like the level boosts. (after getting a character to 1800 i got 1750 gear from the 2nd checkpoint in the legendary campaign, not mission, the checkpoint, about 20 minutes into the story.