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[–] set_secret 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think USA officially switched in the 70s?

it's in small text on all of your products.

The argument there would be mass confusion is really silly becuse the rest of the world switched and they did just fine.

Is the USA saying it's not as clever as THE REST OF THE WORLD?

[–] JustAnotherRando 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just a pun. They're both units of mass, hence there would be mass confusion.

It doesn't work with the pun, but the more confusing part for people would probably be the fact that pounds are used for both mass and force, but in SI, the units are different (kilograms for mass vs newtons for force), though that doesn't really matter for most people.

[–] erev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pounds aren't used for mass. They're explicitly a measure of weight. It's just almost always in the context of earth's gravity so the approximation to mass can easily be made.

[–] JustAnotherRando 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's incorrect. They are, in engineering contexts, referred to as pounds mass (lbm) or pounds force (lbf) respectively. The US Customary Unit for mass is the pound (lb) (aka pound mass, lbm)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither of which were referenced by op. Lb is not a measure of mass.

[–] JustAnotherRando 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Again, that's incorrect. Pounds (Lbs) are the US measurement for mass. Feel free to provide a source to the contrary. I specified pounds mass vs pounds force because in an engineering space, it's worthwhile to be specific, but the Pound (lb) is all that is specified in any documentation as the unit for mass in the US system.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not the same person, but it seems like you're right. Pound (lb) is a unit for measuring mass. The same is true for kilogram. This actually surprises me to some degree, since it had not been clarified like this to me earlier:

In common usage, the mass of an object is often referred to as its weight, though these are in fact different concepts and quantities. Nevertheless, one object will always weigh more than another with less mass if both are subject to the same gravity (i.e. the same gravitational field strength).

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Because mass and weight are separate quantities, they have different units of measure. In the International System of Units (SI), the kilogram is the basic unit of mass, and the newton is the basic unit of force. The non-SI kilogram-force is also a unit of force typically used in the measure of weight. Similarly, the avoirdupois pound, used in both the Imperial system and U.S. customary units, is a unit of mass, and its related unit of force is the pound-force.

Source: Wikipedia: Mass versus weight

I think we're probably confused of this because in common usage, we'll ask "how much does it weigh" and expect to get an answer in the unit of mass instead of force, just because the mass of the object defines the amount of force it will have in some given gravity condition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

the imperial units should be the smaller text

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If the USA is OP then I guess so