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People who say they love the fediverse are usually talking about Mastodon, not Lemmy.
People who say they love the fediverse are usually talking about.... the fediverse?
Thanks I get it now but also I get how dumb this meme is
Maybe. Or, like most users, they are aware that "fediverse" refers to the ActivityPub network as a whole, as well as adjacent networks such as matrix and diaspora.
When I say fediverse, I don't mean Lemmy. If I want to refer to the part of the fediverse we are using, Lemmy/Kbin, I say threadiverse. It's just one corner of the network.
I have no interest in the twitter format for social media, but people who do and enjoy mastodon, have just as much right to be excited about federation and what it can do for social media.
What I don't understand, is why make this meme? Neither Lemmy nor Mastodon, is "the fediverse". Only together, do they become a "universe" of federated instances, and even disparate platforms, which yet interoperate.
A Mastodon user who says they love the fediverse, likely loves it for the same reasons a Lemmy, Kbin, Friendica, Pixelfed, or MissKey user does. Where's the joke?
With this post I just described some people I've met on my journey through fediverse that were saying that they love fediverse meaning by it only Mastodon, as if it's the only platform out there. It's a small number of people, that don't affect anything. Of course after spending more time on fediverse they find out about other platforms(and that's good). The point of the meme is just to make a little fun of them, nothing offensive.
It's not funny.
The primary interpretation is that you're looking down on mastodon and it's users in general. Not merely poking fun at an ignorant few.
It's just more fedora-tipping condescension that keeps "normal" people from embracing things like Lemmy and Mastodon (or Kbin or Pixelfed or...). If we could all stop huffing the farts out of each others' FOSS-holes and be a little kinder to people dipping a toe into these alternate networks, maybe we'd have more than 5 comments on a post.
or kbin ;)
It's a shame how often people forget us. Though could be a good thing given how much drama there is in some parts of Lemmy
Kbin's federation has been hit or miss a lot. It's not that we forget you, a lot of the time, you don't show up.
That will hopefully improve as Kbin matures.
To be fair, the isolation stuff was mostly at the beginning when the exodus started, but I couldn't blame people for leaving when that started. Some people just want to be where everyone is.
I can't say I've experienced much issue with federation since the early times, but then again I wouldn't know what it looks like on the Lemmy side.
I'm not referring to the intentional disabling of federation, but that kbin has had technical issues even after that which has made federation to and from lemmy instances intermittent.
I was on kbin when I first ditched Reddit, but boost coming out for Lemmy got me to switch. The mobile site for kbin is ok but nothing compared to a mostly fleshed out app. Also, like the other guy said the federation wasn't always there.
Personally I like the interface for Kbin. It has many of the features you want in modern forums, but retains a look reminiscent of older style forums. Though I can see it wouldn't be for everyone.
Ah, the great isolation. Was a funny time everyone wondering why they could only see Kbin content haha
Or pleroma
Or Misskey/Firefish
I doesn't matter which platform is a users point of contact. I don't think a lot of users miss the point that "fediverse" refers to all the platforms their platforms communicate with, together. Not just their platform.
Yes, that is exactly the point.
Most people only think it is mastodon, but it's all of them.
I mean it's the most successful federated platform so just by numbers of course more people are going to talk about it.