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[–] techtalkf 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Personally, the only reason I don't fully switch to Linux is because of the Adobe Suite, but other than that, I would absolutely make the switch. I'm hoping that if this promopts enough people to make the switch, then Adobe will finally make versions of their Programs for Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried it on VM or wine and stuff? Try dual booting to test it out.

[–] MeshPotato 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Have you used a gpu intensive application in a VM with good performance?

Adobe software quite heavily relies on cuda or OpenCL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not the poster above, but just wondering here. I don't use Adobe products. I can see a VM not being the best. How about Wine? Can you just install Photoshop via vutris and go?

[–] MeshPotato 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I tried wine recently to see if I can get Total Annihilation to work. I played with Wine in the mid 2000's and gotten office 2003 to run on Suse then.

OMFG the mess when I recently tried to just run a simple exe that doesn't even need a full installation.

Adobe sadly don't just make Photoshop which is a remarkably good product. Even more so with their new features. I use Lightroom and nothing that exists for Linux comes close. All that needs some serious GPU integration.

DaVinci resolve is amazing and a real alternative to Premiere. The problem I see is binary compatibility. Even Linus admits that the Linux desktop has a problem with that.

I do have high hopes for web tech to evolve enough to make cross platform a thing again. Maybe ChromeOS will help there. VS Code is a good example here. With WebGl Vulkan in the browser and OpenCL that should become viable soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Was it Total Annihilation kingdoms or commander?

[–] MeshPotato 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for looking into it. It's just standard TA with mods. I'm sure it can be made to run even more if you buy the steam version.

Linus mentioned in one interview that Steam does amazing work for Linux adoption on the desktop.

The problem is simply that standard Linux software is still a lot of work to get going and maintain. Work I just don't have time for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I just tried it, only was able to find it in the Commander Pack. Played just fine for me with just double clicking the installer, then clicking the new exe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

haven't tried Photoshop, but what exe didn't work in wine for you? If I load them in with Lutris, I haven't found anything I can't run. Just having wine installed and double clicking an exe I haven't had as much luck, it doesn't find dependencies.

Edit: I misread. I can try out Total Annihilation and see if it works. Lutris + protonGE has been pretty much perfect for me these days

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

No, unfortunately. If it was possible, I think we could have gotten everyone that is stuck on Windows because of Adobe, over to Linux by now. Same story with M$ office. BUT that is kinda changing, because for M$ office, we have Office Online and Libreoffice available as alternatives that do the job really well, they got me through college. As for Adobe, there is an online version of Photoshop that you can run in a browser, so hopefully that will get good enough to allow some users to switch to Linux for professionals. Now for personal users they can probably just switch to GIMP. But even then, there's the issue of the other Adobe Creative Cloud Suite.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Realistically wasm gets good enough, that everything starts to become a webapp so that every app is an every os app.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Monkey's paw: now every app becomes subscription based

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They would never. In their mind if you are using Linux is because you can't afford windows. And if you can't afford windows then you can't afford adobe

[–] techtalkf 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But they used to offer support for Photoshop and Illustrator a while back if I'm not mistaken. That's what's annoying me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Older versions are supported via wine/crossover, but not official support

The only mainstream professional graphics program with official Linux support was Corel draw, but for a single version twenty years ago, because they acquired a Linux distribution and they wanted to do a bundle os+office+desktop graphics. But nobody bought it (it's difficult to even find a pirated copy of that) so they scrapped the idea immediately

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that would be awesome. i assume youve tried foss alternatives to adobe apps. they arent as good usually (ofc), but still great for most uses imo, unless u are doing stuff proffessionally i suppose

[–] techtalkf 3 points 9 months ago

I work professionally with Adobe programs, but quite frankly, it's ridiculous that there's no Linux support. Heck, even Cinema4D and Redshift support Linux.