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One thing I've noticed about the alternatives subreddit, is there is a lot of people persuading people against alternatives. It's almost like there was some organising to persuade people there was no alternative.
I mean, when you factor in you'd probably get removed, or shadow-banned, or have your posts removed for mentioning Lemmy, it feels like there is a multifaceted approach to discouraging folk from leaving the reddit teet.
While there is an element of truth, it's scattered in with exaggeration and only focussing on negatives. The objective was to say Lemmy bad, staying good.
No way is Lemmy more toxic than reddit. I find those "well ackshually" folks are much less here.
I use to follow /r/degoogle on reddit... but it felt like pretty much every discussion was people shitting on every alternative, and implying that all measures are totally pointless unless you stop interacting with any form of computer for the rest of your life. It's just so weird having people say there there's no point switching from Chrome to Firefox because google is the default search engine on Firefox. I got to the point where I really did believe there was some deliberate destabilization going on, to weaken the community. (And it worked. I unsubscribed; and I'm sure it struggled to keep anyone who actually had anything useful to say.)
Anyway... I wouldn't be surprised if /r/RedditAlternatives was similar to that.
Oof, I can imagine that sucks. Come join us on [email protected] :) Everyone seems quite enthusiastic about finding alternatives. I'm all about the Firefox, GrapheneOS, Proton Mail, Signal, Element etc. :)
There's a lot of FOSS nerds here who get disgusted at you if you suggest someone use a web browser that isn't Firefox. But if you hung around on the Linux/FOSS subreddits, you'd get the exact same thing...
A lot of open source advocates do tend to be inclined to open source software on an open source link aggregator.
Signed, Open Source entusiast. :)
Yeah that ain't the issue, it's moreso the attitude than anything when someone chooses something that fits their needs better than the open-source alternative.
I say this as someone who uses Firefox but still uses MusicBee.
Out of a quick glance (really quick), I found this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/2915403
It seems you're throwing rocks and getting surprised when people generally respond. You cannot complain about fanboyism when you're trying to start fires. If you don't want those conversations, maybe don't start 'em.
I get that when you bash Firefox on reddit, you can start a circlejerk, but you don't get the same response here and it's as much to do with you being used to the biases of reddit.
That was after dealing with said fanboyism both here and on Reddit. Thought I should warn OP. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There wasn't any really in that thread. You brought it up.
I'm sure you'll warn OP, and another OP, and another OP, and another OP, and after getting any response, blame Firefox fanboys for beaing unbearable...
Yes. I ain't gonna deny my experience both here and on Reddit, lol
We got some Hexbear toxicity, and some real Linux apologists.
But the fun thing about the fediverse is that you can just block those instances and be done with it.
I quite agree with you. I think tankies are quite misguided. They have good intentions, but not so great conclusions. I don't mind engaging with them, and they mostly tend to be in good faith.
I wouldn't describe it as toxic, and it's weird some views in that regards. Many are probably engaging with people that just quit engaging in reddit.
You misunderstand my point.
Communists who believe in sharing the wealth amongst the workers, fair enough.
People who will obsess about Stalin and China, and justify atrocities, not so good.
When I say tankies, I do not mean communists.
So you're saying communists aren't Marxists? They're just folk who are in a weird cult of personality and love China and Russia including the capitalist elements of it? For someone from lemmygrad, I'm quite surprised...
What is a linux apologist?