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Living to 120 is becoming an imaginable prospect (www.economist.com)

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[–] Clbull 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it is. It may not be Communist or Socialist but it's a radical idea to redistribute wealth to the masses and effectively create a literal welfare state. Pretty much every party that supports UBI is left wing.

If 50% of the young people in the country aren't working, you're either going to see a massive prison complex or a militant revolt. Probably both.

I think we'll see a full societal collapse in the next few decades, whether that's a descent into lawless anarchy or civil wars.

[–] kava 1 points 1 year ago

Ok we should have a clear definition of what left means so this conversation is clear. My definition of left is socialism and communism. Welfare capitalism is still right wing. Please feel free to share yours and we can see where we differ

UBI is an attempt to keep the capitalist state going through this radical change. Fundamentally, nothing changes. The people with capital still control the capital. Companies still exist and make profit in a market structure.

People aren't really suggesting this because they want to pay taxes. They are suggesting this because they are scared of the system falling apart. Do you have any other solutions? I really don't think there's a way to keep our current capitalist system and not have a UBI if +50% aren't working.

If we allow the system to collapse, we risk too much. Nazi Germany style authoritarian government with the current surveillance state capacities we have is an incredibly scary thought. They're even working on mind reading - they've done small scale experiments where machine learning models can listen to your brain waves and see what you are thinking.

We cannot allow fascism to have a serious resurgence. It's too dangerous.