lockpicking
A lemmy community dedicated to the sport of lockpicking. Information about our belt system can be found at https://lpubelts.com.
#Rules
Rule 1 - Possibly Illegal or Inappropriate
We do not facilitate illegal or inappropriate activities, which includes picking locks that are not owned by you. Also, be sure that you are familiar with any legal issues for your state or country.
Rule 2 - Lock Not Owned or In Use
Though asking for assistance in regards to how to open a lock is permitted and encouraged, the lock must not be in use. Any submission looking for assistance in opening a lock that is implied to be, or is visibly in use (eg. a deadbolt still attached to a door, or a padlock with anything secured by a closed shackle) will be locked or deleted. Posting about picking locks or having picked locks in use is also not allowed even if they are your own.
Rule of thumb, lock is "in use" if installed.
Rule 3 - No Emergency Services
We do not provide emergency assistance for opening locks. These violations also generally violate our no "in use" locks rule.
Rule 4 - Being a Jerk
Hate speech, bigotry, and personal attacks are not allowed.
Rule 5 - No Astroturfing
Absolutely no astroturfing.
Definition:
Astroturfing is the practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by grassroots participants. It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source's financial connection.
Rule 6 - Off Topic
Posts must stay on topic. Off topic content will be removed at our discretion.
Off topic includes posts asking for lock recommendations, evidence of a lock being picked, and anything not having to do directly with locksport.
Rule 7 - No Stock Photos on Picking Advice Threads
No stock photos on picking advice threads in an attempt to circumvent Rule 2.
Rule 8 - No posts about broken tools or equipment
As some users have demonstrated an inability to discuss this in a productive way, posts about broken tools or equipment will be removed.
This is primarily to address posts commenting on the quality of products (or lack there of) contributing to their breaking.
Rule 9 - No low effort posts / Memes
/c/lockpicking is a subreddit to discuss topics and build a community around a skill, low effort posts and memes take away from that spirit. Including but not limited to photos of keys, Memes, etc
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Hey, welcome!
Hooker set is a solid start I think, but don't get the acrylic locks. They are not very useful to learn picking, and break easily. I'd suggest getting a cutaway lock and a master lock 140. Real locks give much better feedback, and well teach you more.
Edit: assuming you're in the US, I recommend these picks to start: https://jimylongs.com/products/
They are made by a community members and well loved (and very very affordable). I suggest the round hooks, they'll make it easier to feel the pins.Also think about getting some Top of the keyway tensioners, I hear sparrows heavy bars are good)
Also, if you're into discord, consider joining the lpu discord. There are a lot of helpful people there, and you may find it easier to find help.
Good luck!
After a second look at them, I was considering getting all the cutaway locks to practice on all the different types of pins. But the number started to add up real fast, which of the locks in particular do you recommend?
I think I'll just stick with the hookers set first, I'll buy more hooks and tension wrenches as I advance further.
I tried joining the discord but it required phone number verification for the server in particular and I wasn't willing to do that. I also joined the Lockpickers matrix chat but it was pretty much dead so I think I'll just communicate on Lemmy.
@pineapplelover @Greenish Not sure where you're located... but you can get practice locks like this:
https://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/collections/cut-away-practice-locks
and get the Reload kit so you can change pins around yourself.
https://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/products/reload-kit
Wow! Thank you for this. I will definitely get the standard lock and reload kit. That's a bit more affordable than getting all 3 cutaway locks. Any other suggestions? After some modifications I think I will buy the hooker set, cut away standard, reload kit, sherman case, and I'm considering additionally buying ssdev hooks or flat bars knurled tok wrenches
Edit: I'll just get both
@pineapplelover If you're new to this go slow. As you progress you'll take a liking to certain picks, techniques and then wonder why you bought some items you don't like or use😉
That said... ssdev hooks and TOK type tension tools are very handy to have on hand. That looks like a decent selection of items for a good start. Though you don't have any Rakes in your mix. Some skill is needed to use a rake well but it is much easier than SPP'ing. Keep something like the Rakers set in mind too, maybe for a future order. Even just a single Bogota (Triple Rake) style rake would be good. I also like their Worm Rake. Both are in this set:
https://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/products/rakers-lock-pick-set
I don't particularly like to work with rakes, it's more of a luck based tool and doesn't require that much skill. I have done some raking before and although it's cool to get it in a few seconds, I feel more accomplished doing SPP, which is why I specifically chose the Hooker's set instead of the Spirit Kit, which includes those hooks and rakes.
@pineapplelover Seems you already have some rakes around so as to be exposed to their use. I wouldn't add any then till you want to try more with them🙂
"...it’s more of a luck based tool and doesn’t require that much skill..."
Biggest mistake I made early on was believing that raking was easy and luck. Picking the right rake and using a tension tool that has a chance of working with it is a skill. Knowing to move on to a different rake if you don't get an open rather than just burnishing pins down. I've locks that I've never been able to open SPP'ing but will fall to a rake attack in seconds. I'd rather be able to SPP it but just knowing the lock can be opened is valuable to my psyche😉
Ah I see. Yes, I do have one rake that my friend gave to me and that's how I found out I don't really like rakes. I'll keep that in mind that learning how to use rakes is a skill and could prove useful just to test if a lock works.