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Hi! I want to try out fedora workstation in the near future (once 39 is out) and was wondering if systemd-homed is ready for everyday use yet.

I'm a bit paranoid and really need my private data encrypted. However, I don't think that full disk encryption is practical for my daily use. Therefore I was really looking forward to the encryption possibilities of systemd-homed.

However, after reading up on it, I was a bit discouraged. AFAIK, there's no option to setup systemd-homed at installation (of fedora). I was an Arch then Manjaro, then Endeavour user for years but don't have the time/patience anymore to configure major parrts of my system anymore. Also, the documentation doesn't seem too noob-friendly to me, which also plays into the time/patience argument.

Is it ready? Can anyone seriously recommend it for a lazy ex-Arch user who doesn't want to break another linux installation?

Thank you in advance. :)

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[–] vector_zero 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Actually, thinking more about this...

Can you give an example of this grub cmdline bypass? If what you're saying is true, this would be a huge issue. I'd switch bootloaders over something like this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can disable editing and enable password in grub, done. That's the recommended proceedure for TPM boot.

[–] vector_zero 3 points 9 months ago

Finally, someone reasonable.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can google lets drop all the crap you think you understand but don't use simple logic. Unencrypted data isn't secure against physical access. If your data is automatically unencrypted without benefit of entering a passphrase then its not actually secure. There's no free lunch.

[–] vector_zero 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, holy hostility, Batman.

I know there's no such thing as a free lunch. That's why I purchased a TPM for my machine. Anyway, if your intent is to prevent someone from sticking your HDD into another machine to extract your data, FDE ticks that box. If you're worried about highly advanced attacks to find your kiddie porn collection, then you probably are justified in your paranoia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Security is about understanding reasonable threat models. 99.99% of reasonable threats to your machine involve theft or loss of the entire machine and personal data or accounts being accessed. This doesn't require advanced attacks or paranoia nor does it require extreme measures to protect against. No installer will create such a configuration without a passphrase because its a simple and effective step to take to protect your data that is enforced by systems created by people who are all smarter than you.

Your cute statement about child porn is tasteless and thoughtless. I don't take reasonable precautions like taking 5 seconds to type a password because I'm paranoid or criminal I do so because I have basic common sense.

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

[–] vector_zero 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Security is about understanding reasonable threat models. 99.99% of reasonable threats to your machine involve theft or loss of the entire machine and personal data or accounts being accessed..

A thief is going to steal your computer and gut it, not apply liquid nitrogen to your RAM and attach a bunch of instruments with hopes of extracting a crypto key so he can have a small chance at accessing potentially interesting data.

If you think a thief is going to do more, your threat model is very skewed. I suspect that you think you're much more interesting than you actually are.

Your cute statement about child porn is tasteless and thoughtless.

But it was cute.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You asked for details and pick on the unlikely measure of cold boot but ignore the fact that in most configurations you can press the letter "e" to edit the boot up command line. It wasn't "cute" it made you look like a gross human being.

[–] vector_zero 2 points 9 months ago

Lol, whatever.