Asklemmy

You don't need to lose respect for people who are brainwashed by capitalism. They don't know better because it's normalised for them all the time. If you berate them, it won't make them change their ways or see that they're doing harm.

Mailing people out of the blue is probably a good way to get new customers. How else will people know? SEO is always tricky, advertisements are often blocked, calling a company or sending some mails might get better results. However, twelve mails is clearly overdoing it and there should be a functioning opt out button even out of those mails.

I guess a better way would be to go to conferences of your target demographic, but that would require effort.

if I check a box that says...

in this hypothetical, you did. It doesn't specifically say the word "bullshit" but it does give you an opt-out, both on the sign up and the thank you page, and in the immediate bounce back confirmation and in every subsequent email.

your shitty industry

supply chain software? have you considered that everything you've purchased in the last 25 years at least was monitored by supply chain software?

if I need that I'll ask my peers

you personally know the owner of several fleet maintenance companies? What if there's a better fleet maintenance company that you don't know that would be better for your company? I fail to see how "ask someone you know" works at the scale of billion dollar businesses.

none of you drill down to "this person never responds positively to spam"

I'm afraid your mistaken, that is one of the factors the aforementioned software can segment based on, plus we report on it too

we're having a conversation about the [marketing industry] in general

then I'm afraid we're talking cross-purposes. I am talking specifically about my process and experiences. You may personally hate all marketing, but I think a more realistic take is that taking products to market is an essential part of the economy

you're doing people a service

im not saying I'm saving lives, I'm saying that in return for money the company I work for will reduce your compute spend on cloud processing. yes, that is literally a service. how else would you define it? Same as if you pay someone to mow your lawn, they are doing you a service in return for money.

I'll need to scroll back up to see your comments on the 12 emails I'll edit it in.

edit: i don't see any comments specifically about 12 emails but you do say "spamming me."

This will probably anger you more, but if we're talking specifics then that is compliant with what the law says is or is not "spam." So, colloquially, it could be considered spam, but legally it is not.

However, I would say all I've done is describe how the process works, (edit: for example you say I am bragging, I am not, if such clarification is needed, I am neutrally explaing the processes I am employed to undertake) I think you've gotten way angrier than is justified and blown it a bit out of proportion. I understand getting an advert for a new service is mildly annoying but I don't think it's worth getting angry enough to insult someone over.

I would remind you that all I'm doing is a fairly boring office job, sending emails to other office jobs because they work specific jobs that my company specializes in helping.